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	<title>Comments on: America: You Need a Policy Chimp</title>
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	<description>Some Chicago Boyz know each other from student days at the University of Chicago. Others are Chicago boys in spirit. The blog name is also intended as a good-humored gesture of admiration for distinguished Chicago boys including those pictured above.</description>
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		<title>By: Joseph Fouche</title>
		<link>http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/11219.html/comment-page-1#comment-331101</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Fouche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 20:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both Sherman and Grant were geniuses, though Grant had a better grasp on the overall political effect that the war was supposed to bring to pass than Sherman, as witnessed by the different surrender agreements they initially negotiated. 

Grant clearly played the Voice of Reason. Sherman&#039;s sanity always teetered dangerously close to the brink even when, as Union commander in Kentucky in 1861, his predictions of the number of men he needed were largely born out. Indeed, Sherman would have been put out to pasture if it wasn&#039;t for the influence of his brother, Senator John &quot;Anti-trust&quot; Sherman and his father-in-law (and adoptive father) Thomas Ewing, a former senator and cabinet secretary. I think Sherman relished his role and enjoyed scaring the Southerners, a breed he understood very well after he spent a few years down South and served with Southerners (he may have even preferred them to Northerners). His reply to John Bell Hood is military theater at its highest level. Grant had a dramatic flair as well but it was more understated. 

As a counter argument, there&#039;s this famous quote about Grant: &quot;He habitually wears an expression as if he had determined to drive his head through a brick wall, and was about to do it.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both Sherman and Grant were geniuses, though Grant had a better grasp on the overall political effect that the war was supposed to bring to pass than Sherman, as witnessed by the different surrender agreements they initially negotiated. </p>
<p>Grant clearly played the Voice of Reason. Sherman&#8217;s sanity always teetered dangerously close to the brink even when, as Union commander in Kentucky in 1861, his predictions of the number of men he needed were largely born out. Indeed, Sherman would have been put out to pasture if it wasn&#8217;t for the influence of his brother, Senator John &#8220;Anti-trust&#8221; Sherman and his father-in-law (and adoptive father) Thomas Ewing, a former senator and cabinet secretary. I think Sherman relished his role and enjoyed scaring the Southerners, a breed he understood very well after he spent a few years down South and served with Southerners (he may have even preferred them to Northerners). His reply to John Bell Hood is military theater at its highest level. Grant had a dramatic flair as well but it was more understated. </p>
<p>As a counter argument, there&#8217;s this famous quote about Grant: &#8220;He habitually wears an expression as if he had determined to drive his head through a brick wall, and was about to do it.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Lexington Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lexington Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 19:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...according to a recent book...&quot;

Michael:  Which book was that?  I never believed &quot;the bombing begins&quot; was anything but intentional on Reagan&#039;s part.  He was a successful professional broadcaster and actor and politician.  He knew exactly when a microphone was on or off.  He was sending a signal to the Russians with that statement, right out of Hermann Kahn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;according to a recent book&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Michael:  Which book was that?  I never believed &#8220;the bombing begins&#8221; was anything but intentional on Reagan&#8217;s part.  He was a successful professional broadcaster and actor and politician.  He knew exactly when a microphone was on or off.  He was sending a signal to the Russians with that statement, right out of Hermann Kahn.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Kennedy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 17:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually disagree on Grant and Sherman. If you read Liddell Hart&#039;s biography of Sherman, I think his conclusion was that Sherman was the genius and Grant&#039;s job was to (as Alinsky might say) hold Lee in place while Sherman did most of the damage. Had Grant let go of Lee, as Hooker and Meade did, Lee on interior lines might have been able to defeat both of them. By fixing Lee in place, much as the Soviets did the Germans, Grant allowed Sherman to run wild. The Soviet analogy doesn&#039;t work as well since they were taking the heavy casualties and Grant was doing the same.

Reagan&#039;s famous gaffe about &quot;the bombing begins in five minutes&quot; was, according to a recent book, not a gaffe at all but another example of the Nixon as maniac gambit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually disagree on Grant and Sherman. If you read Liddell Hart&#8217;s biography of Sherman, I think his conclusion was that Sherman was the genius and Grant&#8217;s job was to (as Alinsky might say) hold Lee in place while Sherman did most of the damage. Had Grant let go of Lee, as Hooker and Meade did, Lee on interior lines might have been able to defeat both of them. By fixing Lee in place, much as the Soviets did the Germans, Grant allowed Sherman to run wild. The Soviet analogy doesn&#8217;t work as well since they were taking the heavy casualties and Grant was doing the same.</p>
<p>Reagan&#8217;s famous gaffe about &#8220;the bombing begins in five minutes&#8221; was, according to a recent book, not a gaffe at all but another example of the Nixon as maniac gambit.</p>
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		<title>By: Mitch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 15:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The VR/PC pairing is also known as the good cop/bad cop routine.  In comedy, the VR is a dunce and the PC is ineffectual or cowardly.  The best military combinations often have similar pairs.

More pairs:
Danny Glover (VR) / Mel Gibson (PC) (Lethal Weapon)
Ralf Goergens (VR) / Lexington Green (PC) (Chicago Boyz*)
Instapundit (VR) / Frank J. Fleming (PC) (Pajamas Media)
Eisenhower (VR) / Patton (PC) (ETOUSA)
Oliver Hardy (VR) / Stan Laurel (PC)
Prince Hal (VR) / Falstaff (PC) (Henry IV part 2)
Lee (VR) / Stuart (PC); Grant (VR) / Sherman (PC) (US Civil War)

Maybe this explains the problems with the Bush administrations: Bush 41 lacked a Policy Chimp, and it deteriorated into mumbles and aimlessness, all finesse and no energy; Bush 43 lacked a Voice of Reason, lurching from one crisis to the next, all energy and no finesse.  

* Guys, we can&#039;t all be Policy Chimp all the time.  Take turns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The VR/PC pairing is also known as the good cop/bad cop routine.  In comedy, the VR is a dunce and the PC is ineffectual or cowardly.  The best military combinations often have similar pairs.</p>
<p>More pairs:<br />
Danny Glover (VR) / Mel Gibson (PC) (Lethal Weapon)<br />
Ralf Goergens (VR) / Lexington Green (PC) (Chicago Boyz*)<br />
Instapundit (VR) / Frank J. Fleming (PC) (Pajamas Media)<br />
Eisenhower (VR) / Patton (PC) (ETOUSA)<br />
Oliver Hardy (VR) / Stan Laurel (PC)<br />
Prince Hal (VR) / Falstaff (PC) (Henry IV part 2)<br />
Lee (VR) / Stuart (PC); Grant (VR) / Sherman (PC) (US Civil War)</p>
<p>Maybe this explains the problems with the Bush administrations: Bush 41 lacked a Policy Chimp, and it deteriorated into mumbles and aimlessness, all finesse and no energy; Bush 43 lacked a Voice of Reason, lurching from one crisis to the next, all energy and no finesse.  </p>
<p>* Guys, we can&#8217;t all be Policy Chimp all the time.  Take turns.</p>
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		<title>By: dearieme</title>
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		<dc:creator>dearieme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 12:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where does Joe Biden fit in?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where does Joe Biden fit in?</p>
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		<title>By: zenpundit</title>
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		<dc:creator>zenpundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 05:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I note that Pakistan has mastered the Policy Chimp gambit to the point of establishing an Ape House with a breeding center.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I note that Pakistan has mastered the Policy Chimp gambit to the point of establishing an Ape House with a breeding center.</p>
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		<title>By: zenpundit</title>
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		<dc:creator>zenpundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 05:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nixon wanted to try this with his &quot;madman theory&quot; where Kissinger would tell the Soviets that the POTUS was &quot;Out of control&quot; on the subject of Vietnam and that Nixon might, on a lark, drop the Big One on Hanoi.

Kissinger, by contrast felt that there were certain downsides to telling the other major nuclear superpower that the C-in-C was a lunatic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nixon wanted to try this with his &#8220;madman theory&#8221; where Kissinger would tell the Soviets that the POTUS was &#8220;Out of control&#8221; on the subject of Vietnam and that Nixon might, on a lark, drop the Big One on Hanoi.</p>
<p>Kissinger, by contrast felt that there were certain downsides to telling the other major nuclear superpower that the C-in-C was a lunatic.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 00:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome back, Joseph Fouche!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome back, Joseph Fouche!</p>
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		<title>By: Lexington Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lexington Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 23:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jackson  PC / Van Buren VR
Kissinger  VR /Nixon PC
Khamenei  VR / Ahmadinejad PC
Putin PC / Medvedev VR
Pinky VR / Brain PC
Stalin PC / Molotov VR (?)
Hitler PC / Hitler -- the VR appeared all too rarely.

Don&#039;t forget Reagan (&quot;we begin bombing in five mintues&quot;) / Reagan (mash notes to Gorbachev)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jackson  PC / Van Buren VR<br />
Kissinger  VR /Nixon PC<br />
Khamenei  VR / Ahmadinejad PC<br />
Putin PC / Medvedev VR<br />
Pinky VR / Brain PC<br />
Stalin PC / Molotov VR (?)<br />
Hitler PC / Hitler &#8212; the VR appeared all too rarely.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t forget Reagan (&#8220;we begin bombing in five mintues&#8221;) / Reagan (mash notes to Gorbachev)</p>
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		<title>By: onparkstreet</title>
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		<dc:creator>onparkstreet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 22:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We don&#039;t already have one? Or several? What all those think tanks in DC then?

Come on, that was the obvious joke! I had to go there... .   :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don&#8217;t already have one? Or several? What all those think tanks in DC then?</p>
<p>Come on, that was the obvious joke! I had to go there&#8230; .   :)</p>
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