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		<title>By: Shannon Love</title>
		<link>http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/2836.html/comment-page-1#comment-10055</link>
		<dc:creator>Shannon Love</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Feb 2005 17:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steven Den Beste,

Neat! Next stop, the Wall Street Journal!

Let me just say, that I learned from the best. 


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steven Den Beste,</p>
<p>Neat! Next stop, the Wall Street Journal!</p>
<p>Let me just say, that I learned from the best.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Den Beste</title>
		<link>http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/2836.html/comment-page-1#comment-10054</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Den Beste</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Feb 2005 13:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05037/453116.stm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Yer famous&lt;/a&gt;, Shannon!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05037/453116.stm" rel="nofollow">Yer famous</a>, Shannon!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/2836.html/comment-page-1#comment-10053</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2005 22:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your thesis suggests the IMM is ridiculously gullible.  Whether intentional or not, this gullibillity renders them &quot;useful idiots&quot; for  the terrorists.  This regular reader sees no controversy there.

I think many of the news organizations in the IMM rely on their national governments for a huge chunk of their funding, and they must toe a &quot;party line&quot; to maintain this favor.  This makes them propaganda organs, not for-profit news organizations.  As such any analysis that depends on &quot;market forces&quot; such as profit motive, has to fall short.

Here your thesis would be served by a disection of the monolithic &quot;IMM&quot; you discussed.  Time&#039;s short, I know, but if one could trace the personal and financial links between the individual news organizations and their national and international political patrons, we could learn much about this surrender of  &quot;critical judgement.&quot; 

I posed CNN&#039;s early complicity with Al Jazeera as just one example.  Other targets of scrutiny should be Germany&#039;s NWI, Canada&#039;s CBC and, don&#039;t forget the Arab News. 

BTW, (re my original question) this gullibillity renders them cannon-fodder for our Psy-ops guys!  (Anyone else think this, too?)

-Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your thesis suggests the IMM is ridiculously gullible.  Whether intentional or not, this gullibillity renders them &#8220;useful idiots&#8221; for  the terrorists.  This regular reader sees no controversy there.</p>
<p>I think many of the news organizations in the IMM rely on their national governments for a huge chunk of their funding, and they must toe a &#8220;party line&#8221; to maintain this favor.  This makes them propaganda organs, not for-profit news organizations.  As such any analysis that depends on &#8220;market forces&#8221; such as profit motive, has to fall short.</p>
<p>Here your thesis would be served by a disection of the monolithic &#8220;IMM&#8221; you discussed.  Time&#8217;s short, I know, but if one could trace the personal and financial links between the individual news organizations and their national and international political patrons, we could learn much about this surrender of  &#8220;critical judgement.&#8221; </p>
<p>I posed CNN&#8217;s early complicity with Al Jazeera as just one example.  Other targets of scrutiny should be Germany&#8217;s NWI, Canada&#8217;s CBC and, don&#8217;t forget the Arab News. </p>
<p>BTW, (re my original question) this gullibillity renders them cannon-fodder for our Psy-ops guys!  (Anyone else think this, too?)</p>
<p>-Steve</p>
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		<title>By: Shannon Love</title>
		<link>http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/2836.html/comment-page-1#comment-10052</link>
		<dc:creator>Shannon Love</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2005 19:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, 

&lt;i&gt;&quot;...does anyone besides me think this may be &quot;Psyops&quot; in action?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

For purposes of my thesis, it does not matter who produced the images only the media&#039;s credulity in airing it. Perhaps it was an operation aimed at making the media look like idiots. The very fact that it was widely disseminated even though its origins are completely unknown says a lot about  the media&#039;s standards and practices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, </p>
<p><i>&#8220;&#8230;does anyone besides me think this may be &#8220;Psyops&#8221; in action?&#8221;</i></p>
<p>For purposes of my thesis, it does not matter who produced the images only the media&#8217;s credulity in airing it. Perhaps it was an operation aimed at making the media look like idiots. The very fact that it was widely disseminated even though its origins are completely unknown says a lot about  the media&#8217;s standards and practices.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/2836.html/comment-page-1#comment-10051</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2005 19:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shannon, does anyone besides me think this may be &quot;Psyops&quot; in action?   Those &quot;insurgents&quot; are looking pretty loopy right now.  Could it be that, drunk with passion, the MSM has been duped into swallowing one of Rummy&#039;s psy-ops gel-caps?

(I&#039;m one who suspects Abu Ghraib, and the heavily-publicized military trials were psyops, too.  Don&#039;t know, just smells fishy.)

Following up on Orion&#039;s comment:  do y&#039;all remember when CNN announced its &quot;disconnection&quot; from Al Jazeera?  I think it was engineered just before our military moved publicly into Afghanistan.  Up to that point, these two partners had extensive and mutual financial, programming and news-gathering operations.  And, while together, they aired many of AQ&#039;s videos threatening America.

This sudden journalistic dissociation deserves much more scrutiny.

-Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shannon, does anyone besides me think this may be &#8220;Psyops&#8221; in action?   Those &#8220;insurgents&#8221; are looking pretty loopy right now.  Could it be that, drunk with passion, the MSM has been duped into swallowing one of Rummy&#8217;s psy-ops gel-caps?</p>
<p>(I&#8217;m one who suspects Abu Ghraib, and the heavily-publicized military trials were psyops, too.  Don&#8217;t know, just smells fishy.)</p>
<p>Following up on Orion&#8217;s comment:  do y&#8217;all remember when CNN announced its &#8220;disconnection&#8221; from Al Jazeera?  I think it was engineered just before our military moved publicly into Afghanistan.  Up to that point, these two partners had extensive and mutual financial, programming and news-gathering operations.  And, while together, they aired many of AQ&#8217;s videos threatening America.</p>
<p>This sudden journalistic dissociation deserves much more scrutiny.</p>
<p>-Steve</p>
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		<title>By: Orion</title>
		<link>http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/2836.html/comment-page-1#comment-10050</link>
		<dc:creator>Orion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2005 01:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As others have put it before me - the MSM isn&#039;t anti-war, they&#039;re just on the other side.

CBS, CNN, ABC, NBC, et. al. are the terrorists&#039; de facto propoganda arms.

Orion</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As others have put it before me &#8211; the MSM isn&#8217;t anti-war, they&#8217;re just on the other side.</p>
<p>CBS, CNN, ABC, NBC, et. al. are the terrorists&#8217; de facto propoganda arms.</p>
<p>Orion</p>
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		<title>By: Craig R. Harmon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig R. Harmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2005 00:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You forgot #5: My right to know that a brave American Military action figure has been kidnapped and his life threatened. If a child&#039;s toy can be so treated, none of us is safe!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You forgot #5: My right to know that a brave American Military action figure has been kidnapped and his life threatened. If a child&#8217;s toy can be so treated, none of us is safe!</p>
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		<title>By: Shannon Love</title>
		<link>http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/2836.html/comment-page-1#comment-10048</link>
		<dc:creator>Shannon Love</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2005 00:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>leelu,

I am sympathetic to the &quot;its all about the Benjamins&quot; explanation. It does explain why they show the dramatic images but it doesn&#039;t explain why they also disseminate names, goals and demands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>leelu,</p>
<p>I am sympathetic to the &#8220;its all about the Benjamins&#8221; explanation. It does explain why they show the dramatic images but it doesn&#8217;t explain why they also disseminate names, goals and demands.</p>
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		<title>By: TallDave</title>
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		<dc:creator>TallDave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2005 00:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the families of those killed, esp in the events where it appears press were given advance warning, should sue the news organizations that benefitted.  They have a duty to prevent harm which has been violated.

Put it in front a jury.  See what Americans think of news organizations profiting from the murder of our military men and women.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the families of those killed, esp in the events where it appears press were given advance warning, should sue the news organizations that benefitted.  They have a duty to prevent harm which has been violated.</p>
<p>Put it in front a jury.  See what Americans think of news organizations profiting from the murder of our military men and women.</p>
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		<title>By: jrdroll</title>
		<link>http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/2836.html/comment-page-1#comment-10046</link>
		<dc:creator>jrdroll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2005 00:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>4) They&#039;re lazy people in both mind and body.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>4) They&#8217;re lazy people in both mind and body.</p>
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		<title>By: leelu</title>
		<link>http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/2836.html/comment-page-1#comment-10045</link>
		<dc:creator>leelu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2005 00:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shannon:
Thro away reason 1, and it&#039;s a toss-up between 2 &amp; 3.  Come to think of it, they work together... by selling the &quot;disaster du jour&quot;, be it train werck or &quot;failure&quot; in Iraq, MM hopes and knows it *will* draw the eyeballs, which in turn draw the ad $$s.  No eyes, no $$s. 

So, they get to spin bad news because, well, it brings eyeballs to the advertisers.  Which is, after all, the real media game.  Follow the money - who is paying whom, and for what?

I pay my satellite providers to *not* advertise to me.  MM are paid *to* advertise to me.  It&#039;s their job.

Simple as that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shannon:<br />
Thro away reason 1, and it&#8217;s a toss-up between 2 &amp; 3.  Come to think of it, they work together&#8230; by selling the &#8220;disaster du jour&#8221;, be it train werck or &#8220;failure&#8221; in Iraq, MM hopes and knows it *will* draw the eyeballs, which in turn draw the ad $$s.  No eyes, no $$s. </p>
<p>So, they get to spin bad news because, well, it brings eyeballs to the advertisers.  Which is, after all, the real media game.  Follow the money &#8211; who is paying whom, and for what?</p>
<p>I pay my satellite providers to *not* advertise to me.  MM are paid *to* advertise to me.  It&#8217;s their job.</p>
<p>Simple as that.</p>
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