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	<title>Comments on: Tradition 2:  Rybczynski &amp;  Modernism</title>
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		<title>By: ElamBend</title>
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		<dc:creator>ElamBend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2005 19:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lex,
Wow, that&#039;s the first time I&#039;ve seen Seeing Like a State mentioned anywhere.  I myself found it about six years ago in an architectual bookstore in San Francisco.  Although the book kind of peters-out in the end; it has some fantastic chapters, for the description of the early days of the Russian revolution to his, yes, eviscerating of LeCorbrusier.  I still find that I am very influenced by it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lex,<br />
Wow, that&#8217;s the first time I&#8217;ve seen Seeing Like a State mentioned anywhere.  I myself found it about six years ago in an architectual bookstore in San Francisco.  Although the book kind of peters-out in the end; it has some fantastic chapters, for the description of the early days of the Russian revolution to his, yes, eviscerating of LeCorbrusier.  I still find that I am very influenced by it.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Heddleson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Heddleson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2005 12:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You might also be interested in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0195024028/qid=1124026523/sr=8-2/ref=pd_bbs_2/002-2201143-0868867?v=glance&amp;s=books&amp;n=507846&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Timeless Way of Building&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0195019199/qid=1124026523/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-2201143-0868867?v=glance&amp;s=books&amp;n=507846&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;A Pattern Language&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You might also be interested in <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0195024028/qid=1124026523/sr=8-2/ref=pd_bbs_2/002-2201143-0868867?v=glance&amp;s=books&amp;n=507846" rel="nofollow">Timeless Way of Building</a> or <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0195019199/qid=1124026523/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-2201143-0868867?v=glance&amp;s=books&amp;n=507846" rel="nofollow">A Pattern Language</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ginny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ginny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2005 17:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Corbusier and am honored at a mention in your quite intereseting blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Corbusier and am honored at a mention in your quite intereseting blog.</p>
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		<title>By: corbusier</title>
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		<dc:creator>corbusier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2005 16:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant post. I&#039;ll link this to my new blog. An excellent summary of the conflicts between the Modern movement and societies&#039; responses to it.

Rybczynski&#039;s name was always being mentioned during my architecture school days. Somehow I never got around to reading him, but maybe that should be my next book once I&#039;m done reading my current Lewis Mumford epic.

I own a Corbusier chaise lounge and a Mies Barcelona ottoman. They&#039;re actually quite comfortable and guests of mine have been quite surprised at how the &#039;machine to relax in&#039; is such a pleasure to rest on. Still many other mid-century moderns are uncomfortable, especially the Wassily chair. I admit my guilt in seeing these stylish pieces of furniture more as pieces of artwork for the home than as a setting for family. Still there is a lot of contemporary furniture out there that is extremely comfortable and austere at the same time.

Maybe it&#039;s me but I don&#039;t think I can be truly comfortable without being enveloped by beauty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant post. I&#8217;ll link this to my new blog. An excellent summary of the conflicts between the Modern movement and societies&#8217; responses to it.</p>
<p>Rybczynski&#8217;s name was always being mentioned during my architecture school days. Somehow I never got around to reading him, but maybe that should be my next book once I&#8217;m done reading my current Lewis Mumford epic.</p>
<p>I own a Corbusier chaise lounge and a Mies Barcelona ottoman. They&#8217;re actually quite comfortable and guests of mine have been quite surprised at how the &#8216;machine to relax in&#8217; is such a pleasure to rest on. Still many other mid-century moderns are uncomfortable, especially the Wassily chair. I admit my guilt in seeing these stylish pieces of furniture more as pieces of artwork for the home than as a setting for family. Still there is a lot of contemporary furniture out there that is extremely comfortable and austere at the same time.</p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s me but I don&#8217;t think I can be truly comfortable without being enveloped by beauty.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyouth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyouth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2005 14:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t believe it, really.

I am at my desk this morning with four or five texts on woodwork and furniture making.  Specifically looking for chair-making ergonomics.   I have just closed the first text and logged on Chicago Boyz just to see what&#039;s going on.

Man, that&#039;s service!

(BTW, building a large booth in the kitchen under a large window)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe it, really.</p>
<p>I am at my desk this morning with four or five texts on woodwork and furniture making.  Specifically looking for chair-making ergonomics.   I have just closed the first text and logged on Chicago Boyz just to see what&#8217;s going on.</p>
<p>Man, that&#8217;s service!</p>
<p>(BTW, building a large booth in the kitchen under a large window)</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2005 14:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, that was breakfast for my head.  Thanks, Ginny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, that was breakfast for my head.  Thanks, Ginny.</p>
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		<title>By: Lex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2005 01:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bravo.  

Rybczynski is one of my favorite writers, and I think &lt;i&gt;Home&lt;/i&gt; is his best book.  His disucssion of the practical utility of the early 20th Century chairs, which were the perfection of centuries of skillful development, discarded by those in search of abstract artistic notions, is a case study in much of what ails the world.  

An interesting and higly critical take on Corbusier can be found in James C. Scott &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0300078153/002-8633305-0992056?v=glance&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Seeing Like a State: How Certain Schemes to Improve the Human Condition Have Failed.  &lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo.  </p>
<p>Rybczynski is one of my favorite writers, and I think <i>Home</i> is his best book.  His disucssion of the practical utility of the early 20th Century chairs, which were the perfection of centuries of skillful development, discarded by those in search of abstract artistic notions, is a case study in much of what ails the world.  </p>
<p>An interesting and higly critical take on Corbusier can be found in James C. Scott <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0300078153/002-8633305-0992056?v=glance" rel="nofollow">Seeing Like a State: How Certain Schemes to Improve the Human Condition Have Failed.  </a></p>
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