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	<title>Comments on: Runaway Robot (toilet)</title>
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		<title>By: beloml</title>
		<link>http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/3988.html/comment-page-1#comment-19042</link>
		<dc:creator>beloml</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 17:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d say the low-flush toilet and the low-flow shower are tied for worst.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d say the low-flush toilet and the low-flow shower are tied for worst.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Manifold</title>
		<link>http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/3988.html/comment-page-1#comment-19041</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Manifold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 14:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know you&#039;ve been around too many automatic faucets when you wave your hands under a manual one and wonder why nothing happens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know you&#8217;ve been around too many automatic faucets when you wave your hands under a manual one and wonder why nothing happens.</p>
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		<title>By: pst314</title>
		<link>http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/3988.html/comment-page-1#comment-19040</link>
		<dc:creator>pst314</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 01:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I prefer to keep the water system decoupled from the electrical system&quot; 

The men&#039;s room in our office building has one fully-manual sink.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I prefer to keep the water system decoupled from the electrical system&#8221; </p>
<p>The men&#8217;s room in our office building has one fully-manual sink.</p>
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		<title>By: LotharBot</title>
		<link>http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/3988.html/comment-page-1#comment-19039</link>
		<dc:creator>LotharBot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2006 17:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some contractors once accidentally cut the power to the student union building on campus.  The toilets flushed manually, but I had to walk over to another building to find a sink where I could wash my hands.

I prefer to keep the water system decoupled from the electrical system as much as possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some contractors once accidentally cut the power to the student union building on campus.  The toilets flushed manually, but I had to walk over to another building to find a sink where I could wash my hands.</p>
<p>I prefer to keep the water system decoupled from the electrical system as much as possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Half Sigma</title>
		<link>http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/3988.html/comment-page-1#comment-19038</link>
		<dc:creator>Half Sigma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2006 17:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But the auto-flush urinal is a GREAT invention. Too many people were too lazy to push the button on the manual urinals, and consequently the bathrooms always smelled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But the auto-flush urinal is a GREAT invention. Too many people were too lazy to push the button on the manual urinals, and consequently the bathrooms always smelled.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/3988.html/comment-page-1#comment-19037</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2006 14:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got yer food valve right here, pal.

Actually, MB&#039;s point applies to many automated devices. Unless they are designed well they can be more trouble than they are worth, and sometimes they are not designed well. I think this is really a user-interface issue rather than an issue of automation vs. non-automation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got yer food valve right here, pal.</p>
<p>Actually, MB&#8217;s point applies to many automated devices. Unless they are designed well they can be more trouble than they are worth, and sometimes they are not designed well. I think this is really a user-interface issue rather than an issue of automation vs. non-automation.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Blowhard</title>
		<link>http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/3988.html/comment-page-1#comment-19036</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Blowhard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2006 07:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooops, make that &lt;i&gt;foot&lt;/i&gt;-valves ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooops, make that <i>foot</i>-valves &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Blowhard</title>
		<link>http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/3988.html/comment-page-1#comment-19035</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Blowhard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2006 07:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that it&#039;s nice to be able to get through a public washroom without touching anything. That said, I find it psychologically disorienting when everything is &quot;automatic.&quot; I spend seconds feeling like an idiot, staring at the toilet to make sure it flushes. I wave my hand like an idiot underneath the faucet hoping it&#039;ll start up and trying to decode where it&#039;s reading movement. I&#039;d much rather have a physical connection -- I&#039;d feel less like someone being processed through an engineer&#039;s conception. Maybe food-valves are the answer...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that it&#8217;s nice to be able to get through a public washroom without touching anything. That said, I find it psychologically disorienting when everything is &#8220;automatic.&#8221; I spend seconds feeling like an idiot, staring at the toilet to make sure it flushes. I wave my hand like an idiot underneath the faucet hoping it&#8217;ll start up and trying to decode where it&#8217;s reading movement. I&#8217;d much rather have a physical connection &#8212; I&#8217;d feel less like someone being processed through an engineer&#8217;s conception. Maybe food-valves are the answer&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Keith, Indy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith, Indy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 19:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I really want in a public toilet is the ability to flush without touching anything with my hands.

A floor-mounted flusher would be more usefull than auto-flush...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I really want in a public toilet is the ability to flush without touching anything with my hands.</p>
<p>A floor-mounted flusher would be more usefull than auto-flush&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mitch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 11:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When we had a half bath installed, state plumbing codes (later federal law) required a low-flush toilet.  It didn&#039;t work well, but I&#039;ll spare you the details.  We named it after the governor of Massachusetts who had the bright idea: the Dukaka.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When we had a half bath installed, state plumbing codes (later federal law) required a low-flush toilet.  It didn&#8217;t work well, but I&#8217;ll spare you the details.  We named it after the governor of Massachusetts who had the bright idea: the Dukaka.</p>
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		<title>By: ArtD0dger</title>
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		<dc:creator>ArtD0dger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 01:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Automatic urinals, however, are great.  At the Denver airport the men&#039;s rooms have no doorknobs, and the urinals and sinks are automatic.  One can complete the whole process contacting nothing but himself and the automatically-dispensed paper towel.  The latter, at least, comes untouched by human hands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Automatic urinals, however, are great.  At the Denver airport the men&#8217;s rooms have no doorknobs, and the urinals and sinks are automatic.  One can complete the whole process contacting nothing but himself and the automatically-dispensed paper towel.  The latter, at least, comes untouched by human hands.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Manifold</title>
		<link>http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/3988.html/comment-page-1#comment-19031</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Manifold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Mar 2006 23:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Such toilets dare take what they want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Such toilets dare take what they want.</p>
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		<title>By: chel</title>
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		<dc:creator>chel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Mar 2006 22:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best toilets ever are those European models where you can select either powerful flush or light flush given the situation.  I think this actually saves more water than our US low flush models because it eliminates the need for all those extra &quot;courtesy&quot; flushes.

I&#039;ve actually even seen Euro toilets with self cleaning seats too.  How nice!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best toilets ever are those European models where you can select either powerful flush or light flush given the situation.  I think this actually saves more water than our US low flush models because it eliminates the need for all those extra &#8220;courtesy&#8221; flushes.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve actually even seen Euro toilets with self cleaning seats too.  How nice!</p>
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