Comments on: Regional Identity in Electoral Politics http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/4244.html Some Chicago Boyz know each other from student days at the University of Chicago. Others are Chicago boys in spirit. The blog name is also intended as a good-humored gesture of admiration for distinguished Chicago boys including those pictured above. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 06:24:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Jim Bennett http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/4244.html/comment-page-1#comment-20866 Jim Bennett Tue, 11 Jul 2006 04:03:45 +0000 http://www390.pair.com/chicagob/blog/004244.php#comment-20866 Generally, most of the immigrants to the US in general have been from the northern third of Mexico until the last 10-20 years. Texas has been different in many ways -- a robust state narrative that is actively taught to schoolchildren, Anglo and Mexicano alike. A Texas Revolution that was genuinely bicultural, with heroes like Juan Seguin, so that there was some feeling that Texas was the work of Anglo Texicans and Hispano Tejano alike. And that history of the Republic of Texas as a viable part of the international system of states, and exercising regional power projection -- the Texas Navy went down to aid the Yucutan independence movement, albeit unsuccessfully. All this has given Texans a different perspective on Mexico than other Americans have. Both Mexico and Brazil have had major secessionist wars. After all, the Texans won theirs. Yucutan has rebelled several times, bllodily. And there have been secessionist attempts in the North, like the Republic of the Rio Grande in the mid-19th Century. Even the Cristero War of the 1920s, usually viewed as a religious war, had a strong regionalist element to it; the northern highlanders at its core were small farmers who opposed the communal ejido system of the revolutionary government -- in this the dynamics were similar to the Ukranian resistance to collectivization in the 1930s. As for Brazil, the South tried to gain independence in the 1930s and of course lost. An interesting note is that some of the Confederate exile colony in Sao Paulo state were active in the secession forces. They wore lapel pins with the crossed Confederate and Paulista secessionist flags, and the legend "Twice a Rebel". Maybe they were a jinx. Generally, most of the immigrants to the US in general have been from the northern third of Mexico until the last 10-20 years. Texas has been different in many ways — a robust state narrative that is actively taught to schoolchildren, Anglo and Mexicano alike. A Texas Revolution that was genuinely bicultural, with heroes like Juan Seguin, so that there was some feeling that Texas was the work of Anglo Texicans and Hispano Tejano alike. And that history of the Republic of Texas as a viable part of the international system of states, and exercising regional power projection — the Texas Navy went down to aid the Yucutan independence movement, albeit unsuccessfully. All this has given Texans a different perspective on Mexico than other Americans have.

Both Mexico and Brazil have had major secessionist wars. After all, the Texans won theirs. Yucutan has rebelled several times, bllodily. And there have been secessionist attempts in the North, like the Republic of the Rio Grande in the mid-19th Century. Even the Cristero War of the 1920s, usually viewed as a religious war, had a strong regionalist element to it; the northern highlanders at its core were small farmers who opposed the communal ejido system of the revolutionary government — in this the dynamics were similar to the Ukranian resistance to collectivization in the 1930s.

As for Brazil, the South tried to gain independence in the 1930s and of course lost. An interesting note is that some of the Confederate exile colony in Sao Paulo state were active in the secession forces. They wore lapel pins with the crossed Confederate and Paulista secessionist flags, and the legend “Twice a Rebel”.

Maybe they were a jinx.

]]> By: Steve Sailer http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/4244.html/comment-page-1#comment-20865 Steve Sailer Tue, 11 Jul 2006 01:54:09 +0000 http://www390.pair.com/chicagob/blog/004244.php#comment-20865 Right, most of the immigrants to Texas have been from the more Texas-like parts of Northern Mexico, which is why Bush-Rove got blindsided by the opposition to their amnesty-guest worker plans. They didn't understand what other Mexicans were like, or how different were the cultures of farther south parts of Mexico and more sophisticated parts of America. Right, most of the immigrants to Texas have been from the more Texas-like parts of Northern Mexico, which is why Bush-Rove got blindsided by the opposition to their amnesty-guest worker plans. They didn’t understand what other Mexicans were like, or how different were the cultures of farther south parts of Mexico and more sophisticated parts of America.

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