Comments on: Pavlov’s House Bleg

By: Dan from Madison

Dan from Madison — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 16:23:55 +0000

Bummer! I want to read that memoir, but don’t know Russian. Sigh, my search continues. Or I should learn Russian. I tried it in Babelfish, but not so good. I will look into some other software translation packages as well.

By: Dan from Madison

Dan from Madison — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 10:56:35 +0000

Thanks all for this information, I will get on it. Much appreciated.

By: Richard Cook

Richard Cook — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 03:11:37 +0000

Into bios? A good one is The Enigma of General Blaskowitz about Colonel General Johannes Blaskowitz. Hated by Hitler because of his Christianity and his protests against the Waffen SS. Still managed to make it to Colonel General. He either committed suicide or was murdered in prison after the war.

By: Lexington Green

Lexington Green — Wed, 02 Apr 2008 15:22:39 +0000

I also got Tank Rider: Into the Reich with the Red Army, by Evgeni Bessonov, A Writer at War: A Soviet Journalist with the Red Army, 1941-1945 by Vasily Grossman, and Ivan's War: Life and Death in the Red Army, 1939-1945 , by Catherine Merridale. All of these purchases were based on glowing reviews. I have not yet gotten to them, but I pass the titles along.

By: Lexington Green

Lexington Green — Wed, 02 Apr 2008 15:15:11 +0000

A good Red Army memoir I recently read was My Just War: The Memoir of a Jewish Red Army Soldier in World War II, by Gabriel Temkin. It was favorably reviewed in Parameters, which is how I found out about it. Review is here, scroll down. Lots of interesting details about life during the war, and in the Red Army.

By: John Jay

John Jay — Tue, 01 Apr 2008 18:58:51 +0000

Some of the links in my lost post are to Russian Battlefield. Maybe you can convince them to issue Y.F. Pavlov’s memiors in English.

By: John Jay

John Jay — Tue, 01 Apr 2008 18:57:04 +0000

Jonathan – I have an anonymous comment with lost of links in the spam filter. Sorry – hit enter before I ID’d myself.

Main link is here which is Yakob Pavlov’s memoirs in Russian. It’s very slow to load, but click on the sections in blue at the bottom.

Babelfish might give you a very rough translation, since you can cut and paste. Babelfish makes actual sense about 30% of the time, but I don’t think Tatyana or I have time to translate it. I might take a crack at some of it a bit later, if I can find some good bits about the defense of the house.

By: John Jay

John Jay — Tue, 01 Apr 2008 18:51:51 +0000

Here's an interesting aside connected with the Houses of Pavlov and Zablotny. Google does not do as good a job on non-English websites, so I suggest using oyur Google-fu on Russian search engines (using English) such as Yandex. This article popped up when I did that. Don't know if you are familiar with the site. From their book list thisAmazon. This one is also available on Amazon. Another interesting site on Cossaks. Pavlov himself published his memoirs in 1951, and you can get the Russian edition online here, but the books starts here. (Warning: very slow to load). Since it's electronic, you might try running it through Babelfish to get a very rough translation (hah).

By: Lexington Green

Lexington Green — Mon, 31 Mar 2008 14:51:52 +0000

Maybe you should send a request for info to the guys at Russian Battlefield, which is the best site about the Soviet war effort that I have found. There is a reference to Pavlov's House here.

By: Dan from Madison

Dan from Madison — Mon, 31 Mar 2008 10:49:26 +0000

Interesting about Zabolotny house, tx for the info Tatyana. Yes, it seems I would have to learn Russian to get this sort of info, but I will keep digging.

David Foster – I will look into the Grossman book as well.

By: Tatyana

Tatyana — Mon, 31 Mar 2008 02:37:24 +0000

Since you expressed an interest in obscure facts of the War, let me add some info.
While Pavlov’s House is considered a symbol of resistance and well-known around the world, its twin “Zabolotny House” is much less known, although this was another 4-story apartment building 50 meters from the one defended by Pavlov’s platoon. It was taken over by Lieutenant Zabolotny on same day of the Battle of Stalingrad (22 September) and his men defended it till the end of September, just like the Pavlov’s House was, 24hrs a day. The house was a [partial] cover for Pavlov’s house. Both groups used the same trench for communications, their division’s command’s point was across the street where they went through the trench to use the radio.

House defended by Zabolotny was bombed into pieces, nobody survived.

Link (in case JJ is reading and wants to see the original)

By: david foster

david foster — Mon, 31 Mar 2008 02:21:36 +0000

I recently read Life and Fate, by Vasily Grossman, who was a Soviet war correspondent who became a major novelist. Part of the book takes place in something that sounded like Pavlov’s House, athough I’m not sure the name was used (and I can’t find my copy of the book)…

By: Tatyana

Tatyana — Mon, 31 Mar 2008 02:12:49 +0000

Pity you don’t read Russian, Dan – I’m sure something could be found to satisfy your quest…