Comments on: Carbon Emissions

By: Xennady

Xennady — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 23:08:56 +0000

Carl,
You write that their idiotic policies don’t accomplish any of their goals and make the US poorer.

Absolutely. Yet they continue to advocate these policies no matter what damage they do and no matter how much harder they make it for the average person to pay their gas bill.

So why would you assume their goals are what they say they are? If their goal was to weaken and impoverish the US do think they would say so publicly? And no, I don’t think these folks are stupid in the classical sense.

Of course energy policy isn’t the only example of this or even the best, but that’s the subject you wrote about here.

By: Carl from Chicago

Carl from Chicago — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 00:48:17 +0000

Hmm… I don’t know if I understand your comment Xennady.

I was pointing out that their idiotic policies don’t accomplish any of their goals and do make the US poorer. If WE built things here and had our own (relatively) cleaner plants here and didn’t buy from China, the world would be net ahead on greenhouse gases. I am not saying that is a big worry of mine, but if it was, these policies don’t work.

I am not in a position to conjecture whether or not this is enough to make them traitors… they are like this in Europe and elsewhere, as well (making their countries lives difficult to no good end).

By: Xennady

Xennady — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:57:24 +0000

Pardon me for being such a mean hater, but in a certain sense this posting is crap. The greens/environmentalists/leftists continually advocate policies that harm the United States and fail to advance their stated goals- a cleaner world environment, world peace, etc. In this case their actions are 1) hamstringing the future growth of US economy and 2) vastly increasing the amount of pollution that will be emitted into the atmosphere.

Why should I not believe that their true goal isn’t 1) and that 2) is really just collateral damage that is a matter of indifference?

Greens are morons? No, greens are traitors.

By: david foster

david foster — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:47:38 +0000

It’s interesting to compare the attitudes of the old Left and the present-day Left on energy. Both for the New Deal Democrats and the Stalinist Marxists, hydroelectric dams were items of great national pride. For the present-day Left, they are mostly things to be avoided and eliminated, even though they are the only form of renewable energy production that exists at a large scale.

Some have argued that changes like this reflect a tactical shift of the Left: “we lost the economic argument, so now let’s focus on aesthetics.” While there’s some truth in this, I also suspect that the kind of people attracted to the modern Left are different from the kind of people attracted to the old Left.

By: Shannon Love

Shannon Love — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:33:03 +0000

Raising energy cost here also drives jobs out of the country. Blocking a clean coal plant here raises the cost of electricity and makes it more economical to due the manufacturing overseas. The jobs get moved to a place with abundant but polluting power.

It makes everything worse. We lose jobs and industry while increasing pollution. Greens are morons.

By: iamnotachef

iamnotachef — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 13:40:07 +0000

The saddest thing about this energy problem is that we have the technology to produce electricity from coal at pollution rates that are comparable to the cleanest oil and gas burning plants. And as you point out, we have tons of the stuff. And even better, it’s in sparsely populated areas of the country. Strip mining a few square miles of the upper Mid-West is far preferable to sticking wind-powered generators all over the populated northeast. If you drive through the Altamont pass in Northern California you will appreciate the kind of visible and aural pollution those huge fans produce. And solar is perhaps worse!