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		<title>By: zenpundit</title>
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		<dc:creator>zenpundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 18:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adding it to the list....the Antilibrary grows ever larger....:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adding it to the list&#8230;.the Antilibrary grows ever larger&#8230;.:)</p>
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		<title>By: Lexington Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lexington Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 16:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, first-rate list.  Thanks very much.  I could not get through Derek Leebaert&#039;s book, for some reason.  

If you are not familiar with the Friedman book I very highly recommend it.  He focuses on the military and technological side, a good balance to the diplo stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, first-rate list.  Thanks very much.  I could not get through Derek Leebaert&#8217;s book, for some reason.  </p>
<p>If you are not familiar with the Friedman book I very highly recommend it.  He focuses on the military and technological side, a good balance to the diplo stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: zenpundit</title>
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		<dc:creator>zenpundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 14:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post - thanks for the link:

Recs - I&#039;m tilting toward Cold War historical subcategories:

&lt;b&gt;The Fifty-Year Wound: How America&#039;s Cold War Victory Has Shaped Our World&lt;/b&gt; by Derek Leebaert

Incorporated much of the new post-Cold War archival material. emphasis on the costs of the conflict.

&lt;b&gt;The Cold War: A New History&lt;/b&gt; by John Lewis Gaddis

A sound popular history by the top American diplomatic historian. Gaddis sharply rebuts much of the Revisionist-Left arguments about the Cold War

&lt;b&gt;Present at the Creation&lt;/b&gt; by Dean Acheson

Acheson&#039;s memoir is without peer, despite the much greater reticence with which statesmen wrote their public reflections at that time. Still used with regularity as a source by historians today.

&lt;b&gt;Russia and the West under Lenin and Stalin&lt;/b&gt; by George F. Kennnan

A solid, though idiosyncratic, work by the Father of Containment. Lays out how the USSR fit into his worldview as a policy maker and diplomat.

&lt;b&gt;In Confidence&lt;/b&gt; by Anatoly Dobrynin

The longtime Soviet ambassador to the United States was also a member of the Central Committee of the CPSU who had, esp. in his later career, direct connections to several Politburo members. His role in the Soviet foreign service was very rare and abnormally authoritative

&lt;b&gt;Inevitable Revolutions: The United States in Central America&lt;/b&gt; by Walter Lafeber

Best argued Left-revisionist history of U.S. intervention in Latin America written - puts cold war policy there in a context of continuity. Sharply critical without wandering into ahistoricality. 

&lt;b&gt;From the Shadows: The Ultimate Insider&#039;s Story of Five Presidents and How They Won the Cold War&lt;/b&gt; by Robert M. Gates

A great memoir about national security policy making in the later Cold War years. Emphasis on IC.

&lt;b&gt;America&#039;s Longest War: The United States and Vietnam, 1950-1975&lt;/b&gt; by George C Herring

Generally regarded as one of the best, concise, general histories of the Vietnam War</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post &#8211; thanks for the link:</p>
<p>Recs &#8211; I&#8217;m tilting toward Cold War historical subcategories:</p>
<p><b>The Fifty-Year Wound: How America&#8217;s Cold War Victory Has Shaped Our World</b> by Derek Leebaert</p>
<p>Incorporated much of the new post-Cold War archival material. emphasis on the costs of the conflict.</p>
<p><b>The Cold War: A New History</b> by John Lewis Gaddis</p>
<p>A sound popular history by the top American diplomatic historian. Gaddis sharply rebuts much of the Revisionist-Left arguments about the Cold War</p>
<p><b>Present at the Creation</b> by Dean Acheson</p>
<p>Acheson&#8217;s memoir is without peer, despite the much greater reticence with which statesmen wrote their public reflections at that time. Still used with regularity as a source by historians today.</p>
<p><b>Russia and the West under Lenin and Stalin</b> by George F. Kennnan</p>
<p>A solid, though idiosyncratic, work by the Father of Containment. Lays out how the USSR fit into his worldview as a policy maker and diplomat.</p>
<p><b>In Confidence</b> by Anatoly Dobrynin</p>
<p>The longtime Soviet ambassador to the United States was also a member of the Central Committee of the CPSU who had, esp. in his later career, direct connections to several Politburo members. His role in the Soviet foreign service was very rare and abnormally authoritative</p>
<p><b>Inevitable Revolutions: The United States in Central America</b> by Walter Lafeber</p>
<p>Best argued Left-revisionist history of U.S. intervention in Latin America written &#8211; puts cold war policy there in a context of continuity. Sharply critical without wandering into ahistoricality. </p>
<p><b>From the Shadows: The Ultimate Insider&#8217;s Story of Five Presidents and How They Won the Cold War</b> by Robert M. Gates</p>
<p>A great memoir about national security policy making in the later Cold War years. Emphasis on IC.</p>
<p><b>America&#8217;s Longest War: The United States and Vietnam, 1950-1975</b> by George C Herring</p>
<p>Generally regarded as one of the best, concise, general histories of the Vietnam War</p>
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		<title>By: Dan from Madison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan from Madison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 10:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Renminbi - Pulitzers mean nothing - I can sum them up in two words - Walter Duranty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Renminbi &#8211; Pulitzers mean nothing &#8211; I can sum them up in two words &#8211; Walter Duranty.</p>
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		<title>By: Whitehall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whitehall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 04:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m planning on reading Dean Acheson&#039;s autobiography - &quot;Present at the Creation.&quot;  It is supposed to be a great recounting by one of our greatest Sec. of State in the critical first years of the Cold War.

Which brings us to the future - who are the presidential candidates proposing for State?  I&#039;ve heard Kerry mentioned for Obama.  

Doug Feith&#039;s book &quot;War and Decision&quot; certainly highlights the importance of a strong and loyal, reform-mined appointment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m planning on reading Dean Acheson&#8217;s autobiography &#8211; &#8220;Present at the Creation.&#8221;  It is supposed to be a great recounting by one of our greatest Sec. of State in the critical first years of the Cold War.</p>
<p>Which brings us to the future &#8211; who are the presidential candidates proposing for State?  I&#8217;ve heard Kerry mentioned for Obama.  </p>
<p>Doug Feith&#8217;s book &#8220;War and Decision&#8221; certainly highlights the importance of a strong and loyal, reform-mined appointment.</p>
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		<title>By: Smitten Eagle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smitten Eagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 00:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Suri was a professor of mine back at the University of Wisconsin.  And a great one he was.

One of the things Suri always emphasized to his students was how wrong conventional wisdom is so much of the time.  A favorite thesis of his is that Reagan was a humanitarian first--he decried the ethically and morally opaque nature of detente, that the USSR was an evil empire, and that a world without nuclear weapons was worth striving for.  These views ultimately took shape in both the SDI, and concurrently, the Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty.  Nonetheless conventional wisdom of Reagan takes the view that he was an intellectually-weak dollard, an actor who has more in common with Chance Gardner (&quot;Being There&quot;) than being a transformative political figure like a Kennedy, a Roosevelt, etc.

I&#039;m sure that Suri won&#039;t disappoint this time, as the destroys the CW of Kissinger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suri was a professor of mine back at the University of Wisconsin.  And a great one he was.</p>
<p>One of the things Suri always emphasized to his students was how wrong conventional wisdom is so much of the time.  A favorite thesis of his is that Reagan was a humanitarian first&#8211;he decried the ethically and morally opaque nature of detente, that the USSR was an evil empire, and that a world without nuclear weapons was worth striving for.  These views ultimately took shape in both the SDI, and concurrently, the Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty.  Nonetheless conventional wisdom of Reagan takes the view that he was an intellectually-weak dollard, an actor who has more in common with Chance Gardner (&#8220;Being There&#8221;) than being a transformative political figure like a Kennedy, a Roosevelt, etc.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure that Suri won&#8217;t disappoint this time, as the destroys the CW of Kissinger.</p>
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		<title>By: renminbi</title>
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		<dc:creator>renminbi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 21:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lex,thanks for linking to that review. Shows how useful a Pulitzer is as an imprimatur,doesn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lex,thanks for linking to that review. Shows how useful a Pulitzer is as an imprimatur,doesn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Lexington Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lexington Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 21:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Renminbi, I agree that Friedman&#039;s book got far too little attention.  

Fred:  &quot;I would suggest reading Legacy of Ashes, the history of the CIA&quot;.  

&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/csi-publications/csi-studies/studies/vol51no3/legacy-of-ashes-the-history-of-cia.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This review&lt;/a&gt; convinced me not to bother with that one.

The reviewer makes the point that, contra what you say, Kissinger was not worse than other Cold War-era Secretaries of State.  I am inclined to believe that.  Read the review I linked to.  (BTW, I have a policy of deleting your comments, due to prior bad behavior.  But since you are playing nicely, i.e. staying on the subject, being civil, being brief, you can stay on my porch for now.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Renminbi, I agree that Friedman&#8217;s book got far too little attention.  </p>
<p>Fred:  &#8220;I would suggest reading Legacy of Ashes, the history of the CIA&#8221;.  </p>
<p><a href="https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/csi-publications/csi-studies/studies/vol51no3/legacy-of-ashes-the-history-of-cia.html" rel="nofollow">This review</a> convinced me not to bother with that one.</p>
<p>The reviewer makes the point that, contra what you say, Kissinger was not worse than other Cold War-era Secretaries of State.  I am inclined to believe that.  Read the review I linked to.  (BTW, I have a policy of deleting your comments, due to prior bad behavior.  But since you are playing nicely, i.e. staying on the subject, being civil, being brief, you can stay on my porch for now.)</p>
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		<title>By: fred lapides</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 21:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The revelations are correct but hardly show the full extent that Henry K went to, along with every American president during that period of time. I would suggest reading Legacy of Ashes, the history of the CIA, written with copious notes, all materials documented and interview that are extensive...this will reveal what Henry did, and, shockingly, the many presidents before the current one who got CIA dnd NSA, as well as FBI to open mail, tap phones, etc--all done without mandate from their charters and in defiance of the ban on domestic spying by some of those agencies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The revelations are correct but hardly show the full extent that Henry K went to, along with every American president during that period of time. I would suggest reading Legacy of Ashes, the history of the CIA, written with copious notes, all materials documented and interview that are extensive&#8230;this will reveal what Henry did, and, shockingly, the many presidents before the current one who got CIA dnd NSA, as well as FBI to open mail, tap phones, etc&#8211;all done without mandate from their charters and in defiance of the ban on domestic spying by some of those agencies.</p>
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		<title>By: renminbi</title>
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		<dc:creator>renminbi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 20:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Norman Friedman,the naval historian,got his PhD in physics,and has written several dozen books,mostly technologically oriented. It is rare that anyone understands  politics and technology. I bought the book which is the best on the subject,but was very disappointed that I ran across no reviews of the book anywhere except in the Proceedings. This book is a pleasure to read. We have here a market failure. Thanks for plugging it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Norman Friedman,the naval historian,got his PhD in physics,and has written several dozen books,mostly technologically oriented. It is rare that anyone understands  politics and technology. I bought the book which is the best on the subject,but was very disappointed that I ran across no reviews of the book anywhere except in the Proceedings. This book is a pleasure to read. We have here a market failure. Thanks for plugging it.</p>
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