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	<title>Comments on: Gramm, McCain and Obama</title>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/5954.html/comment-page-1#comment-248319</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 13:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s slander because you interjected, as though it were fact, your opinion that the banking and future regulatory reforms Gramm supported somehow caused the Enron scandal and real-estate meltdown, and because you suggested that he supported those reforms because the financial industry gave him campaign contributions. Nowhere did you discuss the substance of Gramm&#039;s positions. And now you dig the hole deeper by suggesting that McCain&#039;s political response to Gramm&#039;s reasonable statements is to be accepted at face value because McCain suffered as a POW. Your assertions are entirely personal and speculative, and give a strong impression that you dislike Gramm but lack a basis to criticize his arguments on the merits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s slander because you interjected, as though it were fact, your opinion that the banking and future regulatory reforms Gramm supported somehow caused the Enron scandal and real-estate meltdown, and because you suggested that he supported those reforms because the financial industry gave him campaign contributions. Nowhere did you discuss the substance of Gramm&#8217;s positions. And now you dig the hole deeper by suggesting that McCain&#8217;s political response to Gramm&#8217;s reasonable statements is to be accepted at face value because McCain suffered as a POW. Your assertions are entirely personal and speculative, and give a strong impression that you dislike Gramm but lack a basis to criticize his arguments on the merits.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/5954.html/comment-page-1#comment-248246</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 05:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonathan,
I don&#039;t think presenting facts about a person&#039;s  history in the senate and his spouses work is ad hominen slanders. They are facts. They are verifiable. His use of  &quot;knowing a lot about economics, finance and public policy&quot; is clearly seen in his senate record and his current role with UBS. Perhaps McCain made a mistake in choosing Gramm; he  acknowledged that publicly following Gramms&#039; statement. I found McCain&#039;s response to the statement to be heartfelt and honest. McCain knows what it is to suffer hardship, as we well know. He could have picked a better economic advisor. 

This weekend&#039;s events concerning FredMac and FanMae counter Gramm&#039;s rosey economic scenario. If these two GSE&#039;s go under, then you&#039;ll hear some real whining, especially from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&amp;sid=aAH0L39cdwkI&amp;refer=home&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Japan.&lt;/a&gt;

Have a good week. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan,<br />
I don&#8217;t think presenting facts about a person&#8217;s  history in the senate and his spouses work is ad hominen slanders. They are facts. They are verifiable. His use of  &#8220;knowing a lot about economics, finance and public policy&#8221; is clearly seen in his senate record and his current role with UBS. Perhaps McCain made a mistake in choosing Gramm; he  acknowledged that publicly following Gramms&#8217; statement. I found McCain&#8217;s response to the statement to be heartfelt and honest. McCain knows what it is to suffer hardship, as we well know. He could have picked a better economic advisor. </p>
<p>This weekend&#8217;s events concerning FredMac and FanMae counter Gramm&#8217;s rosey economic scenario. If these two GSE&#8217;s go under, then you&#8217;ll hear some real whining, especially from <a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&amp;sid=aAH0L39cdwkI&amp;refer=home" rel="nofollow"> Japan.</a></p>
<p>Have a good week. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 05:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Why would anyone listen to the esteemed Dr. Gramm?&lt;/i&gt;

Because he has a deserved reputation for knowing a lot about economics, finance and public policy. That was why McCain picked him as his economic advisor and spokesman, as is obvious to any reasonable observer. If your ad hominem slanders were true McCain wouldn&#039;t have gone near him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Why would anyone listen to the esteemed Dr. Gramm?</i></p>
<p>Because he has a deserved reputation for knowing a lot about economics, finance and public policy. That was why McCain picked him as his economic advisor and spokesman, as is obvious to any reasonable observer. If your ad hominem slanders were true McCain wouldn&#8217;t have gone near him.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 04:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://market-ticker.denninger.net/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Food for thought&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 03:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In 1999, Gramm supported the historic banking deregulation bill that destroyed Depression-era firewalls between commercial banks, investment banks, insurance companies, and securities firms that is now at the heart of our financial problems. Between 1995 and 2000 Gramm, received $1,000,914 in campaign contributions from the Securities &amp; Investment industry. Gramm was one of five co-sponsors of the Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000, which is blamed for permitting the Enron scandal to occur. At the time, Gramm&#039;s wife was on Enron&#039;s board of directors

Wendy Gramm, as CFTC chairwoman, promoted a rule excluding Enron&#039;s energy futures contracts from government oversight. Wendy later joined the Houston-based company&#039;s board and her Enron salary and stock income brought between $915,000 and $1.8 million. 

Why would anyone listen to the esteemed Dr. Gramm?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 1999, Gramm supported the historic banking deregulation bill that destroyed Depression-era firewalls between commercial banks, investment banks, insurance companies, and securities firms that is now at the heart of our financial problems. Between 1995 and 2000 Gramm, received $1,000,914 in campaign contributions from the Securities &amp; Investment industry. Gramm was one of five co-sponsors of the Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000, which is blamed for permitting the Enron scandal to occur. At the time, Gramm&#8217;s wife was on Enron&#8217;s board of directors</p>
<p>Wendy Gramm, as CFTC chairwoman, promoted a rule excluding Enron&#8217;s energy futures contracts from government oversight. Wendy later joined the Houston-based company&#8217;s board and her Enron salary and stock income brought between $915,000 and $1.8 million. </p>
<p>Why would anyone listen to the esteemed Dr. Gramm?</p>
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		<title>By: Smitten Eagle</title>
		<link>http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/5954.html/comment-page-1#comment-247407</link>
		<dc:creator>Smitten Eagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 10:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing worth noting is that had Phil Gramm been one of Obama&#039;s advisors, he would have wound up under the bus with Rev. Wright, Samantha Power, and the other advisors that Obama has found inconvenient.

It&#039;s interesting how Obama gets a pass when one of his people states the truth, or says something unpopular.  But one McCain guy states the pure economic facts and McCain gets unartfully pummelled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing worth noting is that had Phil Gramm been one of Obama&#8217;s advisors, he would have wound up under the bus with Rev. Wright, Samantha Power, and the other advisors that Obama has found inconvenient.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s interesting how Obama gets a pass when one of his people states the truth, or says something unpopular.  But one McCain guy states the pure economic facts and McCain gets unartfully pummelled.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Manifold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Manifold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 03:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NYC - Not a problem.  But do take a shot at quantifying your argument*.  While I would be surprised if the housing bubble drags us into a &#039;91-&#039;92 type recession (and astonished if it led to an &#039;81-&#039;82 type one), it would be interesting to lay out a detailed, falsifiable prediction.  We might all learn something.

Note also that aggregate statistics can be misleading.  See, for example, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newyorkfed.org/mortgagemaps/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dynamic Maps of Nonprime Mortgage Conditions in the United States&lt;/a&gt;, or &lt;a href=&quot;http://hotpads.com/search/#lat=37.6790386010976&amp;lon=-97.312608897686&amp;zoom=12&amp;listingTypes=sale,newHome,rental&amp;loan=30,0.0642,0&amp;areaBorders=heatMapForeclosurePerHousehold&amp;background=street&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this heat map&lt;/a&gt;.

* not the one about whether I deserve to be laid off or not; it wouldn&#039;t be very challenging</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NYC &#8211; Not a problem.  But do take a shot at quantifying your argument*.  While I would be surprised if the housing bubble drags us into a &#8216;91-&#8217;92 type recession (and astonished if it led to an &#8216;81-&#8217;82 type one), it would be interesting to lay out a detailed, falsifiable prediction.  We might all learn something.</p>
<p>Note also that aggregate statistics can be misleading.  See, for example, <a href="http://www.newyorkfed.org/mortgagemaps/" rel="nofollow">Dynamic Maps of Nonprime Mortgage Conditions in the United States</a>, or <a href="http://hotpads.com/search/#lat=37.6790386010976&amp;lon=-97.312608897686&amp;zoom=12&amp;listingTypes=sale,newHome,rental&amp;loan=30,0.0642,0&amp;areaBorders=heatMapForeclosurePerHousehold&amp;background=street" rel="nofollow">this heat map</a>.</p>
<p>* not the one about whether I deserve to be laid off or not; it wouldn&#8217;t be very challenging</p>
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		<title>By: Vince</title>
		<link>http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/5954.html/comment-page-1#comment-247325</link>
		<dc:creator>Vince</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 02:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m so sick of (I&#039;ve been using this phrase a lot now) this 

&quot;Welecome to Nuclear-Hot Critial Breaking Exploding Orgasmaing News at the Top of the Hour.... OMG!!! Presidential Candidate x&#039;s suppoter said y today. Top news!!!    Candidate z demans Candidate x condems y.  X says z is a pedophile and should be quiet&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so sick of (I&#8217;ve been using this phrase a lot now) this </p>
<p>&#8220;Welecome to Nuclear-Hot Critial Breaking Exploding Orgasmaing News at the Top of the Hour&#8230;. OMG!!! Presidential Candidate x&#8217;s suppoter said y today. Top news!!!    Candidate z demans Candidate x condems y.  X says z is a pedophile and should be quiet&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ginny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ginny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 00:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aside from the obvious universal that we don&#039;t like to be condescended to, we also suspect if a politician is doing it that this might be his attitude in office (&quot;what can I get by those rubes&quot; at its worst, more damaging and irritating if more high minded &quot;they don&#039;t know what&#039;s good for them, the economy, or is morally appropriate.&quot;  Of course, we tend to suspect that that line on some level we figure the politician is thinking (probably not consciously) &quot;they don&#039;t know what&#039;s best for me.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aside from the obvious universal that we don&#8217;t like to be condescended to, we also suspect if a politician is doing it that this might be his attitude in office (&#8221;what can I get by those rubes&#8221; at its worst, more damaging and irritating if more high minded &#8220;they don&#8217;t know what&#8217;s good for them, the economy, or is morally appropriate.&#8221;  Of course, we tend to suspect that that line on some level we figure the politician is thinking (probably not consciously) &#8220;they don&#8217;t know what&#8217;s best for me.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Tennwriter</title>
		<link>http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/5954.html/comment-page-1#comment-247303</link>
		<dc:creator>Tennwriter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 00:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are few things more fatal to a politician than condescension to the public.  The public already suspects that politicians feel this way, but they don&#039;t want it confirmed.

Those who are insecure, are made to feel their perceived weakness more deeply.  Those with a more accurate feeling of contempt for politicians are naturally outraged that what most of them regard as lowlives dare to speak so to their moral and intellectual superiors.

Many Americans are hurting. If you live in a big city, and use your car once a week to visit the beach, then no, you&#039;re fine. If, like Senator Gramm, you have tons of cash from your senatorial pension, then no, you&#039;re fine.   But home heating fuel, electricity, and gasoline have gone up a lot, and stayed up.  And most of the country has to drive a lot if they want to keep their job.

  I&#039;m glad things at the Tennwriter la casa are so arranged that most of the other usual bills are very low or nonexistent, but still, $4 a gallon hurts.  If instead of paying down our bills, we&#039;d instead bought the 72&quot; plasma screen, well, we&#039;d be in trouble, instead of merely pinched.

There are a lot of things I could buy if I didn&#039;t have to send  huge gobs of cash to the Saudis so they can finance terrorists.  The economy would be raging forward if gas was $2 a gallon.

This isn&#039;t whining.  This is reality. Sure the economy isn&#039;t in recession, but energy costs have gone up 250% for gasoline, and a substantial, but not so exquisitely painful amount for Mr. Propane and Mr. Electron.

I&#039;m a conservative. I already knew Senator Gramm had lots of problems. I&#039;m not surprised that Senator McCain chose him because both of them are rude.  I&#039;m not surprised Senator McCain slapped Senator Gramm down either because anyone could have told him that calling the US a nation of whiners was really, really not a good idea.  It didn&#039;t work too good for President Carter when he called America a helpless giant or that &#039;malaise&#039; thing.

There is a reason the 70&#039;s come up. No, we&#039;re not as bad off as then, but still.  Clueless, arrogant, not very conservative Republicans, the US acting passively in foriegn affairs, extxtreme fuel costs, and Jimmy Carter...I mean Obama about to win the election.  I&#039;m just waiting for disco to come back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are few things more fatal to a politician than condescension to the public.  The public already suspects that politicians feel this way, but they don&#8217;t want it confirmed.</p>
<p>Those who are insecure, are made to feel their perceived weakness more deeply.  Those with a more accurate feeling of contempt for politicians are naturally outraged that what most of them regard as lowlives dare to speak so to their moral and intellectual superiors.</p>
<p>Many Americans are hurting. If you live in a big city, and use your car once a week to visit the beach, then no, you&#8217;re fine. If, like Senator Gramm, you have tons of cash from your senatorial pension, then no, you&#8217;re fine.   But home heating fuel, electricity, and gasoline have gone up a lot, and stayed up.  And most of the country has to drive a lot if they want to keep their job.</p>
<p>  I&#8217;m glad things at the Tennwriter la casa are so arranged that most of the other usual bills are very low or nonexistent, but still, $4 a gallon hurts.  If instead of paying down our bills, we&#8217;d instead bought the 72&#8243; plasma screen, well, we&#8217;d be in trouble, instead of merely pinched.</p>
<p>There are a lot of things I could buy if I didn&#8217;t have to send  huge gobs of cash to the Saudis so they can finance terrorists.  The economy would be raging forward if gas was $2 a gallon.</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t whining.  This is reality. Sure the economy isn&#8217;t in recession, but energy costs have gone up 250% for gasoline, and a substantial, but not so exquisitely painful amount for Mr. Propane and Mr. Electron.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a conservative. I already knew Senator Gramm had lots of problems. I&#8217;m not surprised that Senator McCain chose him because both of them are rude.  I&#8217;m not surprised Senator McCain slapped Senator Gramm down either because anyone could have told him that calling the US a nation of whiners was really, really not a good idea.  It didn&#8217;t work too good for President Carter when he called America a helpless giant or that &#8216;malaise&#8217; thing.</p>
<p>There is a reason the 70&#8217;s come up. No, we&#8217;re not as bad off as then, but still.  Clueless, arrogant, not very conservative Republicans, the US acting passively in foriegn affairs, extxtreme fuel costs, and Jimmy Carter&#8230;I mean Obama about to win the election.  I&#8217;m just waiting for disco to come back.</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mrs. Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 00:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gramm is a cranky old man. Reminds me of what my sister in law said about our father inlaw. Once they his 70, the edit function goes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gramm is a cranky old man. Reminds me of what my sister in law said about our father inlaw. Once they his 70, the edit function goes.</p>
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		<title>By: Mitch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 23:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whiners have been the Old Media.  They have been banging on about the widespread devastation of 5% unemployment (formerly considered full employment) for over a year now, so the jump to 5 1/2% is the Return of the Son of the Great Depression.  Expect Pulitzer-winning songs of praise if President Obama manages to reduce it to 6%.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whiners have been the Old Media.  They have been banging on about the widespread devastation of 5% unemployment (formerly considered full employment) for over a year now, so the jump to 5 1/2% is the Return of the Son of the Great Depression.  Expect Pulitzer-winning songs of praise if President Obama manages to reduce it to 6%.</p>
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		<title>By: Ginny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ginny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 21:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Home prices:  Colleague carrying boxes to his car, I ask if he&#039;s moving.  Kids out of college, they are moving to a house closer to work (and out of the better school district).  Said they put up a sign and the old one was sold in two days.  Neighbor has had a sign up for 4 months, but wanting $480,000 on a street with half the houses rented by multiple students and across from a (temporary) parking lot means the lack of buyers isn&#039;t all that surprising.  Their remodeling was impressive &amp; its basic lines are great;  still,I&#039;ve never thought we were common sensical about our homes - and our investments, both in emotion and money, in them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Home prices:  Colleague carrying boxes to his car, I ask if he&#8217;s moving.  Kids out of college, they are moving to a house closer to work (and out of the better school district).  Said they put up a sign and the old one was sold in two days.  Neighbor has had a sign up for 4 months, but wanting $480,000 on a street with half the houses rented by multiple students and across from a (temporary) parking lot means the lack of buyers isn&#8217;t all that surprising.  Their remodeling was impressive &amp; its basic lines are great;  still,I&#8217;ve never thought we were common sensical about our homes &#8211; and our investments, both in emotion and money, in them.</p>
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		<title>By: inmypajamas</title>
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		<dc:creator>inmypajamas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am no economist, but until I am standing in line again for gas, staring at long rows of black @ white generics at the grocery store and trying to get a home loan for less than 12.5%, I will not worry overmuch about our current &quot;worst economy ever&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am no economist, but until I am standing in line again for gas, staring at long rows of black @ white generics at the grocery store and trying to get a home loan for less than 12.5%, I will not worry overmuch about our current &#8220;worst economy ever&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: David Foster</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Foster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Falling house prices are certainly very painful for homeowners, especially those who have maxed out their borrowing capability. However, for younger people and others who--for whatever reason--have not yet bought their first house, falling housing prices are very good. In effect, rising housing prices represent an intergenerational transfer of wealth (younger&gt;&gt;older) and falling housing prices are an intergenerational transfer of wealth in the other direction.

Given that most residential real estate changes hands among Americans, I&#039;m not sure that increases/decreases in res R/E price levels (except for those based on physical improvements) should be counted in the national wealth at all. What they really are is asset inflation/deflation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Falling house prices are certainly very painful for homeowners, especially those who have maxed out their borrowing capability. However, for younger people and others who&#8211;for whatever reason&#8211;have not yet bought their first house, falling housing prices are very good. In effect, rising housing prices represent an intergenerational transfer of wealth (younger&gt;&gt;older) and falling housing prices are an intergenerational transfer of wealth in the other direction.</p>
<p>Given that most residential real estate changes hands among Americans, I&#8217;m not sure that increases/decreases in res R/E price levels (except for those based on physical improvements) should be counted in the national wealth at all. What they really are is asset inflation/deflation.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/5954.html/comment-page-1#comment-247215</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The housing bubble and collapse didn&#039;t happen everywhere.  Many parts of the country experienced much less extreme changes in home prices.  Here in North Texas home sales are slow, but prices haven&#039;t collapsed.

High energy prices are generally bad for the economy, but areas that actually produce oil and natural gas benefit from high energy prices.  Some of the areas that complain the most about the current state of the economy consistently block anything in their backyard that would increase energy supply.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The housing bubble and collapse didn&#8217;t happen everywhere.  Many parts of the country experienced much less extreme changes in home prices.  Here in North Texas home sales are slow, but prices haven&#8217;t collapsed.</p>
<p>High energy prices are generally bad for the economy, but areas that actually produce oil and natural gas benefit from high energy prices.  Some of the areas that complain the most about the current state of the economy consistently block anything in their backyard that would increase energy supply.</p>
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		<title>By: NYC</title>
		<link>http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/5954.html/comment-page-1#comment-247214</link>
		<dc:creator>NYC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lexington Green,

Touche`

I let the &quot;concocting&quot; comment get the better of me.  Jay, I&#039;m sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lexington Green,</p>
<p>Touche`</p>
<p>I let the &#8220;concocting&#8221; comment get the better of me.  Jay, I&#8217;m sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: Lexington Green</title>
		<link>http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/5954.html/comment-page-1#comment-247213</link>
		<dc:creator>Lexington Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Idiots are usually the first to go.&quot;

Civility is the first thing to go.  If we let it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Idiots are usually the first to go.&#8221;</p>
<p>Civility is the first thing to go.  If we let it.</p>
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		<title>By: NYC</title>
		<link>http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/5954.html/comment-page-1#comment-247210</link>
		<dc:creator>NYC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 16:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay Manafold,

&quot;...or concocting arguments like those of “NYC,” above.&quot;

Yeah, this whole housing bubble thing is a figment of my imagination.  Is it your contention that falling home prices and 
the disintegration of subprime home loans has NO effect on the economy?  What exactly DOES effect the economy in your world? Let&#039;s just say I&#039;m less than surprised you&#039;re facing a layoff.
Idiots are usually the first to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay Manafold,</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;or concocting arguments like those of “NYC,” above.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, this whole housing bubble thing is a figment of my imagination.  Is it your contention that falling home prices and<br />
the disintegration of subprime home loans has NO effect on the economy?  What exactly DOES effect the economy in your world? Let&#8217;s just say I&#8217;m less than surprised you&#8217;re facing a layoff.<br />
Idiots are usually the first to go.</p>
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		<title>By: LostinThought</title>
		<link>http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/5954.html/comment-page-1#comment-247198</link>
		<dc:creator>LostinThought</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 16:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are not a nation of whiners! Things are awful because a Republican is Prez. We&#039;re only the first  richest country in the history of mankind, but we could be more if we had a Dem leading us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are not a nation of whiners! Things are awful because a Republican is Prez. We&#8217;re only the first  richest country in the history of mankind, but we could be more if we had a Dem leading us.</p>
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