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		<title>By: Mitch Townsend</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mitch Townsend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 17:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pratt, not Platt.  Sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pratt, not Platt.  Sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: Mitch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 17:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fletcher Platt, in his &lt;em&gt;Short History of the Civil War&lt;/em&gt;, quotes Sec. of War Stanton&#039;s comment on the appointment of Gen. Rosecrans, and it might be appropriate here also: &quot;Well, you have made your choice of idiots.  Now you may expect the news of a terrible disaster.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fletcher Platt, in his <em>Short History of the Civil War</em>, quotes Sec. of War Stanton&#8217;s comment on the appointment of Gen. Rosecrans, and it might be appropriate here also: &#8220;Well, you have made your choice of idiots.  Now you may expect the news of a terrible disaster.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Obloodyhell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Obloodyhell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 04:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; What should be a diffuse envelope of positions in a huge multi-dimensional state space has been compacted into two mutually antagonistic tribes on a single left-right axis. The right is guilty in this too, but the left has really taken it to extremes in this cycle.

I fully concur. One of the reasons I beg the question of whether the differences can be resolved short of (at least temporary) dissolution of the nation.

One reason the Left is so accommodating to Islam is that they are quickly morphing into the same sort of absolutist all-or-nothing kind of diktat that Islam is. Bush may well &lt;i&gt;say&lt;/i&gt; you are with us or your are against us -- but the way he means it is far, far more benign than the way the Left approaches differences with the Right. When Bush, or the Right, says something like that, it&#039;s with a much more sorrow-than-anger attitude. With the left, it&#039;s all anger -- &lt;i&gt;How DARE you doubt me? How DARE you disagree with me! I&#039;ll kill you!&lt;/i&gt;

That&#039;s not an attitude with which you can compromise. Not in Islam, and not in the Left.

And if the Left and Right cannot find a compromise with one another, what then?

Politics is all about accommodating. It&#039;s all about words instead of fighting, of finding a solution between your differences which may not satisfy either side, but which both can live with. And if one side absolutely will not work towards such a mutually dissatisfactory goal?

&lt;i&gt;The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun.&lt;/i&gt;
 - R. Buckminster Fuller -</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; What should be a diffuse envelope of positions in a huge multi-dimensional state space has been compacted into two mutually antagonistic tribes on a single left-right axis. The right is guilty in this too, but the left has really taken it to extremes in this cycle.</p>
<p>I fully concur. One of the reasons I beg the question of whether the differences can be resolved short of (at least temporary) dissolution of the nation.</p>
<p>One reason the Left is so accommodating to Islam is that they are quickly morphing into the same sort of absolutist all-or-nothing kind of diktat that Islam is. Bush may well <i>say</i> you are with us or your are against us &#8212; but the way he means it is far, far more benign than the way the Left approaches differences with the Right. When Bush, or the Right, says something like that, it&#8217;s with a much more sorrow-than-anger attitude. With the left, it&#8217;s all anger &#8212; <i>How DARE you doubt me? How DARE you disagree with me! I&#8217;ll kill you!</i></p>
<p>That&#8217;s not an attitude with which you can compromise. Not in Islam, and not in the Left.</p>
<p>And if the Left and Right cannot find a compromise with one another, what then?</p>
<p>Politics is all about accommodating. It&#8217;s all about words instead of fighting, of finding a solution between your differences which may not satisfy either side, but which both can live with. And if one side absolutely will not work towards such a mutually dissatisfactory goal?</p>
<p><i>The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun.</i><br />
 &#8211; R. Buckminster Fuller -</p>
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		<title>By: ArtD0dger</title>
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		<dc:creator>ArtD0dger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 21:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another Carter wouldn&#039;t be so bad -- he was widely perceived as a failure and swept away after a single term.  I fear that we have a perfect storm for another FDR -- a stealth leftist coming into office in an economic crisis under a Democratic congress with a perceived mandate for sweeping change.  That kind of damage can take generations to undo.

I completely agree that group identity plays a larger role than reflective ideology in contemporary politics.  What should be a diffuse envelope of positions in a huge multi-dimensional state space has been compacted into two mutually antagonistic tribes on a single left-right axis.  The right is guilty in this too, but the left has really taken it to extremes in this cycle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another Carter wouldn&#8217;t be so bad &#8212; he was widely perceived as a failure and swept away after a single term.  I fear that we have a perfect storm for another FDR &#8212; a stealth leftist coming into office in an economic crisis under a Democratic congress with a perceived mandate for sweeping change.  That kind of damage can take generations to undo.</p>
<p>I completely agree that group identity plays a larger role than reflective ideology in contemporary politics.  What should be a diffuse envelope of positions in a huge multi-dimensional state space has been compacted into two mutually antagonistic tribes on a single left-right axis.  The right is guilty in this too, but the left has really taken it to extremes in this cycle.</p>
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		<title>By: Obloodyhell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Obloodyhell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 21:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; I predict an Obama presidency will be a repeat of the first two years of the Clinton presidency.

Wrong &quot;c&quot; presidency.  &quot;Carter&quot;, not &quot;Clinton&quot;. And it&#039;ll match or &quot;better&quot;(worsen) all four gruelling years.

Obama is not the man to rebuild the economy. 

He remains committed to idiotic expenditures on things the markets won&#039;t support -- like wind, solar, and biofuels. He has openly called to &lt;b&gt;reduce&lt;/b&gt; US energy generation by 15%. He believes strongly in socialist economic theories.

Does that SOUND like someone who is going to do ANYTHING but tank an already soft economy?

I predict that an Obama election will guarantee a further substantial reduction in the market, which presumably (hopefully) will have stabilized at that point. 

This proposition seems a lock, the market does not do well after Dem wins. The only thing which might save a tanking is a vote-ALL-the-bastards out Congressional result that probably favors the GOP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; I predict an Obama presidency will be a repeat of the first two years of the Clinton presidency.</p>
<p>Wrong &#8220;c&#8221; presidency.  &#8220;Carter&#8221;, not &#8220;Clinton&#8221;. And it&#8217;ll match or &#8220;better&#8221;(worsen) all four gruelling years.</p>
<p>Obama is not the man to rebuild the economy. </p>
<p>He remains committed to idiotic expenditures on things the markets won&#8217;t support &#8212; like wind, solar, and biofuels. He has openly called to <b>reduce</b> US energy generation by 15%. He believes strongly in socialist economic theories.</p>
<p>Does that SOUND like someone who is going to do ANYTHING but tank an already soft economy?</p>
<p>I predict that an Obama election will guarantee a further substantial reduction in the market, which presumably (hopefully) will have stabilized at that point. </p>
<p>This proposition seems a lock, the market does not do well after Dem wins. The only thing which might save a tanking is a vote-ALL-the-bastards out Congressional result that probably favors the GOP.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Garland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Garland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 19:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a problem with conventional standards for political discussion. Somehow, &quot;we&quot; decided that the past was old stuff. We don&#039;t need the past, we need new ideas for the future. The past didn&#039;t work, or we would be happy now.

This allows Obama and most other politicians to say that their history doesn&#039;t mean anything. They are here to replace history with new stuff. They are visionary thinkers of the future. 

The truth is that the past is almost all that really matters. Cocktail napkin plans for reforming &quot;society&quot; have never worked, and have created misery. The current financial crisis is based in discarding the &quot;white banker&quot; standards of past lending, in exchange for &quot;social justice lending&quot; of the future.

The past shows what has worked and failed, in reality rather than on paper. New policies for the future must respect what has been learned. New politicians tell us what they have done that improved life (not just their dreams), if we want a good chance for success.

See also http://easyopinions.blogspot.com/2008/10/tell-me-about-past.html

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The politician doesn&#039;t go all the way to &quot;I wish/dream/pray for a better future&quot; because the crowd might wake up and laugh. Laughter isn&#039;t the desired response to a stirring speech. We would all be better off if we laughed at these statements rather than cheering. Let&#039;s say &quot;Wow. A politician who wants things to be better, cheaper, and easier. Ha Ha.&quot; 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a problem with conventional standards for political discussion. Somehow, &#8220;we&#8221; decided that the past was old stuff. We don&#8217;t need the past, we need new ideas for the future. The past didn&#8217;t work, or we would be happy now.</p>
<p>This allows Obama and most other politicians to say that their history doesn&#8217;t mean anything. They are here to replace history with new stuff. They are visionary thinkers of the future. </p>
<p>The truth is that the past is almost all that really matters. Cocktail napkin plans for reforming &#8220;society&#8221; have never worked, and have created misery. The current financial crisis is based in discarding the &#8220;white banker&#8221; standards of past lending, in exchange for &#8220;social justice lending&#8221; of the future.</p>
<p>The past shows what has worked and failed, in reality rather than on paper. New policies for the future must respect what has been learned. New politicians tell us what they have done that improved life (not just their dreams), if we want a good chance for success.</p>
<p>See also <a href="http://easyopinions.blogspot.com/2008/10/tell-me-about-past.html" rel="nofollow">http://easyopinions.blogspot.com/2008/10/tell-me-about-past.html</a></p>
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The politician doesn&#8217;t go all the way to &#8220;I wish/dream/pray for a better future&#8221; because the crowd might wake up and laugh. Laughter isn&#8217;t the desired response to a stirring speech. We would all be better off if we laughed at these statements rather than cheering. Let&#8217;s say &#8220;Wow. A politician who wants things to be better, cheaper, and easier. Ha Ha.&#8221;
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		<title>By: Tatyana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tatyana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 17:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, but they still talk about &quot;Clinton years of prosperity&quot;. I&#039;ve read an opinion that like Clinton came to power when the economy started to get on the rise, same will happen with Democratic candidate this time: we&#039;ll survive the bottom of the market just in time for the elections, and then while the economy picks up itself the Left will take the credit</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, but they still talk about &#8220;Clinton years of prosperity&#8221;. I&#8217;ve read an opinion that like Clinton came to power when the economy started to get on the rise, same will happen with Democratic candidate this time: we&#8217;ll survive the bottom of the market just in time for the elections, and then while the economy picks up itself the Left will take the credit</p>
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