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		<title>By: Obloodyhell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Obloodyhell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 09:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;  If someone is a racist, then by definition they genuinely believe that a person’s race disqualifies them in some way.

Wrong. It&#039;s just as racist to assume that a person&#039;s race QUALIFIES them in some way. This is where a large percentage of Obama support comes from -- people who are voting for him solely because &quot;it&#039;s about time&quot; or &quot;he&#039;s the first black candidate, how can you not vote?&quot; Etc., Etc., ad nauseum. About the only thing being black should expressly qualify you for it a test for sickle-cell anemia.

&gt; suggest that I don’t want other races to do well since I am white and don’t support affirmative action. But in my mind, the line of thinking that leads one to say “The minorities couldn’t possibly succeed if we don’t help them!”

Chris, if I may give you a point of view which is quite fun to challenge the libtards with over this: 
1) The Chinese and Japanese have been treated little, if any, better than the blacks, in the past -- the &quot;coolies&quot; -- the railroad workers were treated almost like slaves, paid crap, and mistreated horribly. A chinese man acting amorous with a white woman 80 years ago was just as likely to get lynched as a black man. The Japanese were the ONLY Americans who were put in detention camps in WWII, with property confiscated and very few rights. So, while they were not slaves -- they certainly were not substantially better off in treatment by the majority whites.
2) Those of &quot;oriental descent&quot; (the Orient is a region, not an epithet. I refuse to use &quot;Asian&quot; since there are a whole host of individuals not a part of the group I&#039;m referring to) have manage to not only equal the accomplishments of whites, but even to exceed them. Oriental-Americans regularly equal and exceed on academic tests, year after year.
3) If Orientals can overcome the stigma of their earlier oppressions, why are blacks deemed incapable of doing the same? Are blacks inferior to both whites and orientals? Are they stupider, lazier, less talented? What? &lt;b&gt;What possible argument can you make that BLACKS WILL FAIL where orientals did not, which does not devolve into &quot;Blacks are inherently inferior&quot;?&lt;/i&gt;
4) The fact of the matter is, blacks are WORSE off -- by far -- than they were 60 years ago in everything BUT basic opportunity. Illiteracy is far higher, unemployment is far higher, educational accomplishments are far lower, crime and incarceration is far higher, AIDS is rampant in the black community, as is illegitimacy and drug abuse. College-educated black women are particularly hard-hit, since the pool of eligible males for them -- College-educated males with no substantial criminal record -- is becoming a vanishing breed.

To paraphrase a quote regarding another subject, &lt;i&gt;if an outside group had imposed these kinds of results on ANY US citizens, it would be considered an Act of War&lt;/i&gt;. Other than civil rights, is there ANY positive measure for blacks resulting from the policies of the last 45 years?

&lt;i&gt;How many more black people are going to be sacrificed on the altar of Democrat Victimhood?&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;  If someone is a racist, then by definition they genuinely believe that a person’s race disqualifies them in some way.</p>
<p>Wrong. It&#8217;s just as racist to assume that a person&#8217;s race QUALIFIES them in some way. This is where a large percentage of Obama support comes from &#8212; people who are voting for him solely because &#8220;it&#8217;s about time&#8221; or &#8220;he&#8217;s the first black candidate, how can you not vote?&#8221; Etc., Etc., ad nauseum. About the only thing being black should expressly qualify you for it a test for sickle-cell anemia.</p>
<p>&gt; suggest that I don’t want other races to do well since I am white and don’t support affirmative action. But in my mind, the line of thinking that leads one to say “The minorities couldn’t possibly succeed if we don’t help them!”</p>
<p>Chris, if I may give you a point of view which is quite fun to challenge the libtards with over this:<br />
1) The Chinese and Japanese have been treated little, if any, better than the blacks, in the past &#8212; the &#8220;coolies&#8221; &#8212; the railroad workers were treated almost like slaves, paid crap, and mistreated horribly. A chinese man acting amorous with a white woman 80 years ago was just as likely to get lynched as a black man. The Japanese were the ONLY Americans who were put in detention camps in WWII, with property confiscated and very few rights. So, while they were not slaves &#8212; they certainly were not substantially better off in treatment by the majority whites.<br />
2) Those of &#8220;oriental descent&#8221; (the Orient is a region, not an epithet. I refuse to use &#8220;Asian&#8221; since there are a whole host of individuals not a part of the group I&#8217;m referring to) have manage to not only equal the accomplishments of whites, but even to exceed them. Oriental-Americans regularly equal and exceed on academic tests, year after year.<br />
3) If Orientals can overcome the stigma of their earlier oppressions, why are blacks deemed incapable of doing the same? Are blacks inferior to both whites and orientals? Are they stupider, lazier, less talented? What? <b>What possible argument can you make that BLACKS WILL FAIL where orientals did not, which does not devolve into &#8220;Blacks are inherently inferior&#8221;?<br />
4) The fact of the matter is, blacks are WORSE off &#8212; by far &#8212; than they were 60 years ago in everything BUT basic opportunity. Illiteracy is far higher, unemployment is far higher, educational accomplishments are far lower, crime and incarceration is far higher, AIDS is rampant in the black community, as is illegitimacy and drug abuse. College-educated black women are particularly hard-hit, since the pool of eligible males for them &#8212; College-educated males with no substantial criminal record &#8212; is becoming a vanishing breed.</p>
<p>To paraphrase a quote regarding another subject, <i>if an outside group had imposed these kinds of results on ANY US citizens, it would be considered an Act of War</i>. Other than civil rights, is there ANY positive measure for blacks resulting from the policies of the last 45 years?</p>
<p><i>How many more black people are going to be sacrificed on the altar of Democrat Victimhood?</i></b></p>
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		<title>By: Sean F.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 05:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mickey Kaus may well be a man of many talents but being a liberal is not among them. 

He appears to call himself liberal (or a Democrat) mostly to annoy his detractors; his positions are so far to the right, he isn&#039;t even a DINO, he&#039;s a Republican.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_Kaus</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mickey Kaus may well be a man of many talents but being a liberal is not among them. </p>
<p>He appears to call himself liberal (or a Democrat) mostly to annoy his detractors; his positions are so far to the right, he isn&#8217;t even a DINO, he&#8217;s a Republican.</p>
<p>See <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_Kaus" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_Kaus</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mike Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its sad how the media illuminati attempt to make us feel like a racist for not voting for Obama.  Actually the more they push that issue, the more it shows that the liberals are playing the race card not the conservatives.  Hang on to your seats its either going to be a landslide or a super close election that is going to make a lot of people upset.  Hopefully the people in Flordia have perfected their voting techniques.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its sad how the media illuminati attempt to make us feel like a racist for not voting for Obama.  Actually the more they push that issue, the more it shows that the liberals are playing the race card not the conservatives.  Hang on to your seats its either going to be a landslide or a super close election that is going to make a lot of people upset.  Hopefully the people in Flordia have perfected their voting techniques.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have had this discussion with colleagues on a recurring basis.  Many of them are the typical combo of pro affirmative action, pro race based quotas, and suggest that I don&#039;t want other races to do well since I am white and don&#039;t support affirmative action.  But in my mind, the line of thinking that leads one to say &quot;The minorities couldn&#039;t possibly succeed if we don&#039;t help them!&quot; is the sort of polite parlor racism that used to be practiced by the progressives in centuries past.   I&#039;ve said it before and I&#039;ll say it again...for many liberals and college kids who seem to latch on to liberal talking points, it is far more important to *appear* to not be a racist than to actually not be one.  

I told a group of colleagues who were making a poor go of teaming up on me, that they(liberals) use racism, bigot, facist, you name it as a crutch for dismissing arguments that they cannot dismiss with a rational rebuttal. They use it as club to beat down anyone in our hyper PC society, since they are so afraid of being labeled a racist or bigot that they will back down from their initial points or arguments.  It has been very liberating for me to just take to saying &quot;I don&#039;t give a damn if you think I&#039;m a racist...it doesn&#039;t bother me in the least&quot;..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had this discussion with colleagues on a recurring basis.  Many of them are the typical combo of pro affirmative action, pro race based quotas, and suggest that I don&#8217;t want other races to do well since I am white and don&#8217;t support affirmative action.  But in my mind, the line of thinking that leads one to say &#8220;The minorities couldn&#8217;t possibly succeed if we don&#8217;t help them!&#8221; is the sort of polite parlor racism that used to be practiced by the progressives in centuries past.   I&#8217;ve said it before and I&#8217;ll say it again&#8230;for many liberals and college kids who seem to latch on to liberal talking points, it is far more important to *appear* to not be a racist than to actually not be one.  </p>
<p>I told a group of colleagues who were making a poor go of teaming up on me, that they(liberals) use racism, bigot, facist, you name it as a crutch for dismissing arguments that they cannot dismiss with a rational rebuttal. They use it as club to beat down anyone in our hyper PC society, since they are so afraid of being labeled a racist or bigot that they will back down from their initial points or arguments.  It has been very liberating for me to just take to saying &#8220;I don&#8217;t give a damn if you think I&#8217;m a racist&#8230;it doesn&#8217;t bother me in the least&#8221;..</p>
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