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	<title>Comments on: Blagojevich, Obama and The Chicago Way</title>
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	<description>Some Chicago Boyz know each other from student days at the University of Chicago. Others are Chicago boys in spirit. The blog name is also intended as a good-humored gesture of admiration for distinguished Chicago boys including those pictured above.</description>
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		<title>By: Tyouth</title>
		<link>http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/6487.html/comment-page-1#comment-285322</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyouth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 02:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;you can’t just sell Senate seats like it’s an auction or a convenience store…&quot;

  Yes, to sell something like a Senate seat one has to be more like a circumspect horse trader, I imagine.  I may be cynical but my impression is that Bleg was only stupidly coarse in the pursuit of his goodies and perhaps in the coarse nature of the goodies themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;you can’t just sell Senate seats like it’s an auction or a convenience store…&#8221;</p>
<p>  Yes, to sell something like a Senate seat one has to be more like a circumspect horse trader, I imagine.  I may be cynical but my impression is that Bleg was only stupidly coarse in the pursuit of his goodies and perhaps in the coarse nature of the goodies themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: David Dzidzikashvili</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Dzidzikashvili</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 22:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blagojevich&#039;s actions gave America a bad name and Gov Blagojevich has become liability for the country, American people and the Democratic Party. He owes an apology to the public. We are not a Banana Republic, you can’t just sell Senate seats like it’s an auction or a convenience store…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blagojevich&#8217;s actions gave America a bad name and Gov Blagojevich has become liability for the country, American people and the Democratic Party. He owes an apology to the public. We are not a Banana Republic, you can’t just sell Senate seats like it’s an auction or a convenience store…</p>
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		<title>By: Tyouth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyouth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 05:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;My mom is visiting and she says it reminds her of the attitude in parts of India -&quot;, said MD

Having grown up on the far south side of the city knowing politically active parents of friends, it struck me then, and it does now, that the &quot;party&quot; is a very serious thing in Cook County.  Nowhere else have I experienced the slavish adherence to the &quot;party line&quot;.  There are no arguments brooked by precinct captains.  Right, wrong, and rationalization don&#039;t enter into it.  It always seemed to me to be a taste, a shade, of what life is like in totalitarian countries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;My mom is visiting and she says it reminds her of the attitude in parts of India -&#8221;, said MD</p>
<p>Having grown up on the far south side of the city knowing politically active parents of friends, it struck me then, and it does now, that the &#8220;party&#8221; is a very serious thing in Cook County.  Nowhere else have I experienced the slavish adherence to the &#8220;party line&#8221;.  There are no arguments brooked by precinct captains.  Right, wrong, and rationalization don&#8217;t enter into it.  It always seemed to me to be a taste, a shade, of what life is like in totalitarian countries.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 04:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey &quot;Harold P. Butts III.&quot;

Here&#039;s a quote and link for you, from two dudes who know high level Democratic Party politics don&#039;t see things quite your way:

&lt;b&gt;&quot;This is a huge distraction at the worst possible moment,&quot; said Lanny Davis, a former White House special counsel who did damage control for President Bill Clinton.

And it can grow if not handled properly. &quot;It&#039;s like the whirlwind,&quot; said Chris Lehane, another veteran of the Clinton teams. &quot;You get pulled into the vortex more and more.&quot;&lt;/b&gt;

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/12/11/america/11fallout.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey &#8220;Harold P. Butts III.&#8221;</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a quote and link for you, from two dudes who know high level Democratic Party politics don&#8217;t see things quite your way:</p>
<p><b>&#8220;This is a huge distraction at the worst possible moment,&#8221; said Lanny Davis, a former White House special counsel who did damage control for President Bill Clinton.</p>
<p>And it can grow if not handled properly. &#8220;It&#8217;s like the whirlwind,&#8221; said Chris Lehane, another veteran of the Clinton teams. &#8220;You get pulled into the vortex more and more.&#8221;</b></p>
<p><a href="http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/12/11/america/11fallout.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/12/11/america/11fallout.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: The Funny Part</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Funny Part</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 01:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With a media that was actually interested in reporting as opposed to fawning, this kind of stuff would have come out before the election. 

The Ill. Governor&#039;s antics weren&#039;t a secret.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With a media that was actually interested in reporting as opposed to fawning, this kind of stuff would have come out before the election. </p>
<p>The Ill. Governor&#8217;s antics weren&#8217;t a secret.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 01:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the future If Obama is involved it will come out. I think he knows more than said. My thought is on the Pontiac Prison.If or when Rod is convicted or sentenced Pontiac ought to invite Ryan to finish his sentence at Pontiac with a special invitation to Rod to share a cell with him. That way Durbin won&#039;t have to worry about Ryans health. Rod can take care of him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the future If Obama is involved it will come out. I think he knows more than said. My thought is on the Pontiac Prison.If or when Rod is convicted or sentenced Pontiac ought to invite Ryan to finish his sentence at Pontiac with a special invitation to Rod to share a cell with him. That way Durbin won&#8217;t have to worry about Ryans health. Rod can take care of him.</p>
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		<title>By: Methinks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Methinks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 23:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m just glad we found the one honest Illinois politician to elect to the presidency....</description>
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		<title>By: Niko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Niko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 23:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When someone gets crucified for something that everyone else does you&#039;ve got to ask yourself &#039;what gives&#039;? 

Oh, that&#039;s right he didn&#039;t support the bailout......good to see who&#039;s pulling the strings and who&#039;s the marionette. All we need now is a bit of good ol fashion public outrage....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When someone gets crucified for something that everyone else does you&#8217;ve got to ask yourself &#8216;what gives&#8217;? </p>
<p>Oh, that&#8217;s right he didn&#8217;t support the bailout&#8230;&#8230;good to see who&#8217;s pulling the strings and who&#8217;s the marionette. All we need now is a bit of good ol fashion public outrage&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Manifold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Manifold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 21:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The linked article predicts nothing remotely related to the events of the past two days, or the reaction to them.

Thanks for the advertisement ... I guess it&#039;s all about the traffic, huh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The linked article predicts nothing remotely related to the events of the past two days, or the reaction to them.</p>
<p>Thanks for the advertisement &#8230; I guess it&#8217;s all about the traffic, huh?</p>
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		<title>By: Harold P. Butts III</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harold P. Butts III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 21:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Gov is NOT Chicago but the state. Obama is totally in the clear and innuendo does not work here. As predicted:  http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=let_the_conservative_whining_begin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Gov is NOT Chicago but the state. Obama is totally in the clear and innuendo does not work here. As predicted:  <a href="http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=let_the_conservative_whining_begin" rel="nofollow">http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=let_the_conservative_whining_begin</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jay Manifold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Manifold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The consequences of misspelling &quot;Constitutional&quot; are, of course, also quite painful, at least for me personally.  ;^)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The consequences of misspelling &#8220;Constitutional&#8221; are, of course, also quite painful, at least for me personally.  ;^)</p>
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		<title>By: MD</title>
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		<dc:creator>MD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Know what bothers me as a Chicago-is-my-adopted-city-person? That people around here seem so ho-hum about it. I mean, there is embarrasment and anger, but I wonder if even this scandal will change business as usual? My mom is visiting and she says it reminds her of the attitude in parts of India - you just assume officials do the bribe thing and figure it into the cost of business.

How can we change things around here? Anyone have any links for someone like me to follow up on? At this point, I&#039;m wondering if some out of state entity should go through the government contracts and awards or something!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Know what bothers me as a Chicago-is-my-adopted-city-person? That people around here seem so ho-hum about it. I mean, there is embarrasment and anger, but I wonder if even this scandal will change business as usual? My mom is visiting and she says it reminds her of the attitude in parts of India &#8211; you just assume officials do the bribe thing and figure it into the cost of business.</p>
<p>How can we change things around here? Anyone have any links for someone like me to follow up on? At this point, I&#8217;m wondering if some out of state entity should go through the government contracts and awards or something!</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Manifold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Manifold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I hope is that this is actually Fitz&#039;s way of keeping Obama from getting into even worse trouble.  What I fear is that Obama&#039;s naïveté will cause him to make (additional) easily-disproven denials, and that well before 1/20/09, we will be asking: what did the President[-elect] know, and when did he know it?

Anyone who lived through 1973-4 in this country should dread that.  The consequences of a scandal of this magnitude, shading into a full-blown Constititional crisis, during an entirely separate &quot;black swan&quot; cascading failure in finance, are just too painful for me to contemplate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I hope is that this is actually Fitz&#8217;s way of keeping Obama from getting into even worse trouble.  What I fear is that Obama&#8217;s naïveté will cause him to make (additional) easily-disproven denials, and that well before 1/20/09, we will be asking: what did the President[-elect] know, and when did he know it?</p>
<p>Anyone who lived through 1973-4 in this country should dread that.  The consequences of a scandal of this magnitude, shading into a full-blown Constititional crisis, during an entirely separate &#8220;black swan&#8221; cascading failure in finance, are just too painful for me to contemplate.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Garland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Garland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too bad Blagojevich didn&#039;t follow the advice in The Political Manual.

It seems that he read &lt;a href=&quot;http://easyopinions.blogspot.com/2008/03/tpm-adaquate-compensation.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Adequate Compensation: How to get paid in politics&lt;/a&gt;, but he skipped &lt;a href=&quot;http://easyopinions.blogspot.com/2008/06/tpm-talk-at-your-own-risk.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Talk At Your Own Risk: Be careful what you say, to anyone&lt;/a&gt;.

Politics is a discipline. He should have studied.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too bad Blagojevich didn&#8217;t follow the advice in The Political Manual.</p>
<p>It seems that he read <a href="http://easyopinions.blogspot.com/2008/03/tpm-adaquate-compensation.html" rel="nofollow">Adequate Compensation: How to get paid in politics</a>, but he skipped <a href="http://easyopinions.blogspot.com/2008/06/tpm-talk-at-your-own-risk.html" rel="nofollow">Talk At Your Own Risk: Be careful what you say, to anyone</a>.</p>
<p>Politics is a discipline. He should have studied.</p>
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		<title>By: Helen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Helen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can someone tell me, please: have there been other examples of political scandals breaking around the President-Elect &lt;i&gt;before&lt;/i&gt; the inauguration? This is an honest to goodness question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can someone tell me, please: have there been other examples of political scandals breaking around the President-Elect <i>before</i> the inauguration? This is an honest to goodness question.</p>
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		<title>By: Obloodyhell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Obloodyhell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 15:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; What other proof you people need?

I vote for Olde Skool Tekaniqs.

I think we should stick his dick in a blender. 

If it comes out unharmed, then it is God&#039;s will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; What other proof you people need?</p>
<p>I vote for Olde Skool Tekaniqs.</p>
<p>I think we should stick his dick in a blender. </p>
<p>If it comes out unharmed, then it is God&#8217;s will.</p>
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		<title>By: Tatyana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tatyana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 14:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon - Obama himself said so! &quot;I did not have relations with that &lt;strike&gt;woman&lt;/strike&gt; bad, bad, very bad man!&quot;
What other proof you people need?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon &#8211; Obama himself said so! &#8220;I did not have relations with that <strike>woman</strike> bad, bad, very bad man!&#8221;<br />
What other proof you people need?</p>
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		<title>By: Paul from Florida</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul from Florida</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 13:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This just proves how really great The One is.  That, Jesus like, he could be with these moneychangers, and still be pure with his message of hope, change and salvation through him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This just proves how really great The One is.  That, Jesus like, he could be with these moneychangers, and still be pure with his message of hope, change and salvation through him.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 09:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The real political trouble for Obama...&lt;/i&gt;

Nonsense. The media keep assuring us that Obama has nothing to do with any of this. That&#039;s good enough for me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The real political trouble for Obama&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Nonsense. The media keep assuring us that Obama has nothing to do with any of this. That&#8217;s good enough for me!</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Schwartz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Schwartz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 05:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Chicago&#039;s sales tax is more than 10%. You guys got a steaming mess on your hands.

I think Obama might be the Michael Corleone of the Chicago machine. They may have deliberately kept him out of the worst stuff to create a veneer of respectability. Will he step up to his responsibilities if Sonny goes down?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Chicago&#8217;s sales tax is more than 10%. You guys got a steaming mess on your hands.</p>
<p>I think Obama might be the Michael Corleone of the Chicago machine. They may have deliberately kept him out of the worst stuff to create a veneer of respectability. Will he step up to his responsibilities if Sonny goes down?</p>
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