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	<description>Some Chicago Boyz know each other from student days at the University of Chicago. Others are Chicago boys in spirit. The blog name is also intended as a good-humored gesture of admiration for distinguished Chicago boys including those pictured above.</description>
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		<title>By: wordsmith96</title>
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		<dc:creator>wordsmith96</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had children at a relatively young age, before I had quite figured out what I wanted in a career. Many times I was told that I should have gone to law school and maybe I would have if I hadn&#039;t decided to stay home and raise my children. As it was, I dropped out a few times to have a child and went back, finally getting an English degree 16 years after entering college. Now that they are older and pretty much on their own, I am finding my career in the business world these past 10 years or so and it has been a big adjustment to raising my last child (an 11-year-old boy) who was in child care as opposed to being a stay at home mom. I can see and understand both sides of this issue. But, down in my heart, I believe very firmly that for me raising my own children was an experience and an education in itself, even though I was out of the work force for quite a while. When in an interview I&#039;ve been asked about dealing with difficult people or disgruntled customers, all I&#039;ve said is, &quot;No problem, I&#039;ve raised teenagers! Now I&#039;m pretty bullet proof.&quot; I admired Sarah Palin for her commitment to her job and raising her children but I don&#039;t think I&#039;d have the energy to do anything like that! I truly don&#039;t feel like I missed out on a high powered career, my stream just diverted in a different direction...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had children at a relatively young age, before I had quite figured out what I wanted in a career. Many times I was told that I should have gone to law school and maybe I would have if I hadn&#8217;t decided to stay home and raise my children. As it was, I dropped out a few times to have a child and went back, finally getting an English degree 16 years after entering college. Now that they are older and pretty much on their own, I am finding my career in the business world these past 10 years or so and it has been a big adjustment to raising my last child (an 11-year-old boy) who was in child care as opposed to being a stay at home mom. I can see and understand both sides of this issue. But, down in my heart, I believe very firmly that for me raising my own children was an experience and an education in itself, even though I was out of the work force for quite a while. When in an interview I&#8217;ve been asked about dealing with difficult people or disgruntled customers, all I&#8217;ve said is, &#8220;No problem, I&#8217;ve raised teenagers! Now I&#8217;m pretty bullet proof.&#8221; I admired Sarah Palin for her commitment to her job and raising her children but I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;d have the energy to do anything like that! I truly don&#8217;t feel like I missed out on a high powered career, my stream just diverted in a different direction&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Bennett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 05:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...&quot;that’s a common immigrant child way of thinking. Our parents’ stories, to our eyes, are heroic.&quot;

They probably &lt;i&gt;are&lt;/i&gt; heroic; it&#039;s just that others haven&#039;t known them, and unless somebody gets the stories from them and writes them down, nobody ever will.  The immigrants of the past century have had to bridge enormous gaps, from very primitive, impoverished societites to the world&#039;s most modern industrial civilization.  It required amazing resiliancy and perseverance to succeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;&#8221;that’s a common immigrant child way of thinking. Our parents’ stories, to our eyes, are heroic.&#8221;</p>
<p>They probably <i>are</i> heroic; it&#8217;s just that others haven&#8217;t known them, and unless somebody gets the stories from them and writes them down, nobody ever will.  The immigrants of the past century have had to bridge enormous gaps, from very primitive, impoverished societites to the world&#8217;s most modern industrial civilization.  It required amazing resiliancy and perseverance to succeed.</p>
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		<title>By: onparkstreet</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ginny: &quot;But our own ambivalences lead us to strike out in ways prompted by these deep, intense, and mostly pretty ambivalent and chaotic feelings.&quot;

Yes, that&#039;s true, I agree. Many of the medical residents I supervise have children, and because I don&#039;t have children, I often feel I am simultaneously *too hard* and *too easy* on them. I am concerned that they spend enough time with their children and want them to have time off for that, but, also, I want them to be VERY prepared for their jobs because it won&#039;t be easy, balancing medicine and children. Yes, the more I think about it, you may be correct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ginny: &#8220;But our own ambivalences lead us to strike out in ways prompted by these deep, intense, and mostly pretty ambivalent and chaotic feelings.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, that&#8217;s true, I agree. Many of the medical residents I supervise have children, and because I don&#8217;t have children, I often feel I am simultaneously *too hard* and *too easy* on them. I am concerned that they spend enough time with their children and want them to have time off for that, but, also, I want them to be VERY prepared for their jobs because it won&#8217;t be easy, balancing medicine and children. Yes, the more I think about it, you may be correct.</p>
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		<title>By: Ginny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ginny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I agree that conservatives get a bad press - and that Gillibrand as pro-NRA is likely to, even if she is in many ways a liberal democrat.  I just think that babies make people uneasy; raising children is so hard and we can screw it up in so many ways that we are always a bit insecure.  And if you haven&#039;t had kids, you feel a certain sadness, too.  In other words, you can&#039;t win.  But our own ambivalences lead us to strike out in ways prompted by these deep, intense, and mostly pretty ambivalent and chaotic feelings.  And I do think that women gain power in primitive societies when they are no longer childbearing - but seeing a woman with political power and a child stirs us in some interesting ways.  

I haven&#039;t read Brookner.  Thanks for the suggestion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I agree that conservatives get a bad press &#8211; and that Gillibrand as pro-NRA is likely to, even if she is in many ways a liberal democrat.  I just think that babies make people uneasy; raising children is so hard and we can screw it up in so many ways that we are always a bit insecure.  And if you haven&#8217;t had kids, you feel a certain sadness, too.  In other words, you can&#8217;t win.  But our own ambivalences lead us to strike out in ways prompted by these deep, intense, and mostly pretty ambivalent and chaotic feelings.  And I do think that women gain power in primitive societies when they are no longer childbearing &#8211; but seeing a woman with political power and a child stirs us in some interesting ways.  </p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t read Brookner.  Thanks for the suggestion.</p>
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		<title>By: onparkstreet</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I think my Dad is amazing, too, and that&#039;s a common immigrant child way of thinking. Our parents&#039; stories, to our eyes, are heroic. They are survivors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I think my Dad is amazing, too, and that&#8217;s a common immigrant child way of thinking. Our parents&#8217; stories, to our eyes, are heroic. They are survivors.</p>
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		<title>By: onparkstreet</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ginny,

Have you read much Anita Brookner? I ask because she is a writer who has mused, beautifully and quite unfashionably, about contemporary feminism. It&#039;s not what you think, and it&#039;s not what her critics think, either. Well, that&#039;s my thesis.

She&#039;s a writer that tends to get a bit of an eye-roll because of her sensibilities, but, she has that Booker and all those, one senses, reluctantly positive, Kakutani reviews.

I had a hard time with this: choices are plentiful, and then you make them, and they are less plentiful. Men do this, too, we just don&#039;t tend to make such a poetic fuss over it, I suppose. 

And, to your original thesis, no, I don&#039;t agree, entirely. Any happy, healthy, successful conservative seems to get strange reaction from certain quarters. I don&#039;t think what President Bush got in terms of criticism was any less harsh than Palin.

I think my working mother, who had a hot dinner on the table every day, and kept a beautiful house, and worked hard at her job, was a SUPER woman. I often feel I don&#039;t measure up. She&#039;s amazing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ginny,</p>
<p>Have you read much Anita Brookner? I ask because she is a writer who has mused, beautifully and quite unfashionably, about contemporary feminism. It&#8217;s not what you think, and it&#8217;s not what her critics think, either. Well, that&#8217;s my thesis.</p>
<p>She&#8217;s a writer that tends to get a bit of an eye-roll because of her sensibilities, but, she has that Booker and all those, one senses, reluctantly positive, Kakutani reviews.</p>
<p>I had a hard time with this: choices are plentiful, and then you make them, and they are less plentiful. Men do this, too, we just don&#8217;t tend to make such a poetic fuss over it, I suppose. </p>
<p>And, to your original thesis, no, I don&#8217;t agree, entirely. Any happy, healthy, successful conservative seems to get strange reaction from certain quarters. I don&#8217;t think what President Bush got in terms of criticism was any less harsh than Palin.</p>
<p>I think my working mother, who had a hot dinner on the table every day, and kept a beautiful house, and worked hard at her job, was a SUPER woman. I often feel I don&#8217;t measure up. She&#8217;s amazing.</p>
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