I was merely pointing out that finding this administration in bed with Chavez et al is just as surprising as finding a pigeon in the park with a bunch of other birds who look suspiciously like other pigeons.

What is it that is so surprising? Obama and his advisors are merely aligning themselves with their natural allies—the collectivist, corrupt, and authoritarian.

Peas in a pod.

The White House, State and the media accept the narrative that rich landowners dominate Honduras in order to exploit the downtrodden proletariat. Only land redistribution can break the power of the evil landowners because it takes land from the evil rich and gives it to the noble poor.

Therefore, the Honduran Constitution, the Honduran Supreme Court, the Honduran Legislature, the Honduran Laws are all illegitimate because they were written at the direction of landowners.

This is why Obama, Castro, Chavez, CBS, NBC, ABC, NYTimes, LATimes, and WaPo all claim that there was a coup in Honduras and that Chavez’s and Castro’s puppet, Zelaya, should be anointed Dictator of Honduras.

Does this matter to anyone? Yes. It is a 180-degree reversal of US foreign policy in the Western Hemisphere, it reverses the US position on Marxism (now we embrace it) and Democracy (we oppose it unless it is Marxist “Democracy”).

Here we thought Marxism was dead. Marxism has been reborn!

Zelaya wanted a constitution that would allow his reelection. To get that done within the law would have first required changing the provision that punishes advocating such a change with a loss of Honduran citizenship. This would have taken votes in two separate Congresses and then a referendum. After the advocacy would have been legalized he would have to modify the clause stating that the no reelection rule is unamendable. Finally he would have actually had to amend the no reelection rule. It would have taken 6 elected Honduran Congresses to have 6 votes and the people would have had to do 3 referendums confirming it all. If everything would have gone Zelaya’s way legally it would have been done sometime during the 30s. It is an indictment of our political class and our media that most people have not been educated on these facts.

The law was not good enough for Zelaya. He is a man in a hurry and was willing to shred the law to get what he wants. That the Supreme Court ordered his arrest on treason charges is understandable. The vice president having recently resigned, the next constitutional successor is Micheletti who, after this ‘coup’, is president. Funny sort of coup, that.

The trial that would have followed was destined to become bogged down over the sorry state of Honduran impeachment proceedings and the coequal status of the branches of government and would have provoked a constitutional crisis that would have likely lasted until invasion (Chavez publicly threatened it if they moved to remove Zelaya and there were reports of infiltrators from Nicaraugua) or the next election provided a new President to replace Zelaya (if Zelaya would have recognized the elections).

What’s the problem?

Does anyone else long for the speeches of Gerson, perhaps haltingly but honestly delivered by Bush – ones that took pride in our history and even more pride in the ideas we tried, if imperfectly, to define in our actions and constitution?

ARTICULO 239.- El ciudadano que haya desempeñado la titularidad del Poder Ejecutivo no podrá ser Presidente o Designado.
El que quebrante esta disposición o proponga su reforma, así como aquellos que lo apoyen directa o indirectamente, cesarán de inmediato en el desempeño de sus respectivos cargos, y quedarán inhabilitados por diez años para el ejercicio de toda función pública.
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TRANSLATION – Article 239.- The citizen that has been the head of the Executive Branch cannot be President or Vice-President (again).
Whoever violates this law or proposes its reform, as well as those that support such violation directly or indirectly, will immediately cease in their functions and will be unable to hold any public office for a period of 10 years.

In addition there is Article 42, which strips the citizenship of any Honduran who tries to extend the term of the president.

In view of this, it seems that the Honduran Congress, Supreme Court, and Armed Forces acted legally, Constitutionally, and successfully in accordance with their oaths.

One wonders [not really] what the reaction of those who are bemoaning the actions of the Honduran government would be if Buraq Hussein Obama would announce at the end of a second term [you do not know how hard it was to type those words]that he was going to amend the Constitution to allow him to have a 3rd term by way of a special referendum run by the Army and ACORN. And immediately thereafter both Congress and the Supreme Court said not only no, but “Hell,No!”.

Would you say that we should wait until after he was inaugurated for a 3rd term to do anything; or would you do as I suspect most Americans would, and cheer as our Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, and Marines frog-marched him out of the White House, and left Congress to sort out the succession according to the 25th Amendment?

To be honest, Zelaya is fortunate beyond belief not to have made the acquaintance of a wall, a blindfold, and a last cigarette.

Moving back to the original discussion of Obama’s ideology, and that of his followers; for all practical purposes there is no alternative but to conclude from their foreign and domestic actions that Buraq Hussein Obama, his administration, and the entire Democratic Party are enemies of the United States. And that this situation is not going to end well.

Subotai Bahadur

True, Lex.

May I add that the US’ insolvency will also serve to cripple his power. Be thankful for small favors.

Or at least, it did not rule that Zalaya was to be removed until after Zelaya had been flown to Costa Rica. If the referendum been brought to a vote (much less passed), the Honduran Congress would have been justified in impeaching Zelaya, and the military would have the authority to detain him.

Simply put: the military did not have the authority to detain the President at the time of his detainment. Their actions were not legally mandated. If the opposition had been able to wait a couple more days, allowing governmental institutions to run their course, then the detainment of the President and the establishment of an interim government would be both legal and legitimate.

It stands where it did before; post-hoc approval by the court and congress is not enough to excuse a coup.

Zelaya was trying to establish a political fait accompli that would be difficult to reverse. He defied the Honduran court by pushing ahead with his referendum even after the court had ruled it illegal. I don’t see why additional formal process was necessary to enforce the court order, particularly since it was likely that Zelaya would have expoited any delay to advance his referendum. If the referendum had actually been held Zelaya’s opponents probably would have boycotted it, which means it likely would have “passed,” leaving the country in political disarray. The Honduran establishment may have mishandled the media or made other tactical errors, I don’t know, but I think they were wise to remove Zelaya without further deliberation.

I am not sure I buy this.

The opposition would be in the right if they had waited. If they had waited until the Honduran congress had impeached the President. But they didn’t. Instead, the military broke the standstill. It was not the courts, nor the congress that removed Zelaya from power, but the military. They produced a court order seeking his arrest — after they had arrested him. Congress produces a letter of resignation (mostly likely forged or produced under duress) after Zelaya is gone.

And what does the interim government do once they take power? They shut down dissenting media outlets, refuse international media access to the country, break up protests, issue a curfew and send tanks down the street.

Yes, what Zelaya was doing was illegal. Yet in cases of democratic governance, fire should not be used tp fight fire. The abandonment of democratic institutions before they have been tested by the opposition cannot be supported. Nor can any coup that removes a democratically elected leader before it is given the authority to do so. Post-hoc approval by the remaining branches of the Honduran military is not enough to justify this coup.

Silly question. Of course they do. Obama votes wear Che T-shirts, put Cuban and Che posters on their wall, admire Franz Fanon, admire Mao… what part of this is a surprise? It’s not the mask that’s come off Obama: he represents, accurately, the wish and will of Democrat party, its supports, hangers-on, followers, and officials.

tehag