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		<title>By: Lexington Green</title>
		<link>http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/7859.html/comment-page-1#comment-324450</link>
		<dc:creator>Lexington Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yo, Jimbino, you from Chicago?

If the bidding starts that low, it starts that low for a reason.

In the immortal words of one of Mayor Richard J. Daley&#039;s henchmen, talking about a goo-goo liberal on the city council: His whole problem is he thinks this place is on the level.

It aint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yo, Jimbino, you from Chicago?</p>
<p>If the bidding starts that low, it starts that low for a reason.</p>
<p>In the immortal words of one of Mayor Richard J. Daley&#8217;s henchmen, talking about a goo-goo liberal on the city council: His whole problem is he thinks this place is on the level.</p>
<p>It aint.</p>
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		<title>By: Squid</title>
		<link>http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/7859.html/comment-page-1#comment-324437</link>
		<dc:creator>Squid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 14:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The govt is selling a $300,000,000 building for $300,000, and Jimbino thinks Carl&#039;s the one with bad business sense.  Will wonders never cease?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The govt is selling a $300,000,000 building for $300,000, and Jimbino thinks Carl&#8217;s the one with bad business sense.  Will wonders never cease?</p>
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		<title>By: Jimbino</title>
		<link>http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/7859.html/comment-page-1#comment-324428</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimbino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 03:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carl from Chicago:

You have pegged yourself as a loser investor. I&#039;d love to be the guy selling to/buying from you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carl from Chicago:</p>
<p>You have pegged yourself as a loser investor. I&#8217;d love to be the guy selling to/buying from you!</p>
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		<title>By: Lexington Green</title>
		<link>http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/7859.html/comment-page-1#comment-324414</link>
		<dc:creator>Lexington Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 18:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;... you probably would have never seen a private builder build a building with a freeway through it.&quot;

Actually ... .

Immediately East of the Post Office, somebody did &lt;a href=&quot;http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2341/2191188749_93f25a6d8e.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;just that&lt;/a&gt;, though at that point the (same) freeway has &quot;become&quot; Congress Parkway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230; you probably would have never seen a private builder build a building with a freeway through it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually &#8230; .</p>
<p>Immediately East of the Post Office, somebody did <a href="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2341/2191188749_93f25a6d8e.jpg" rel="nofollow">just that</a>, though at that point the (same) freeway has &#8220;become&#8221; Congress Parkway.</p>
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		<title>By: Shannon Love</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shannon Love</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 16:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the linked article:

&lt;i&gt;&quot;Obviously there&#039;s a lot of unique logistics, not to mention a freeway running through it.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Needless to say, you probably would have never seen a private builder build a building with a freeway through it. That kind of weirdness takes a politics. 

If a private investment manager had done something like this and cost his private investors (say a bunch of retirees) $299,700,000 while walking away with a fat paycheck, leftists would declare this a sign of the inherent corruption and irrationality of the free-market and a clear indicator of the need for more regulation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the linked article:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Obviously there&#8217;s a lot of unique logistics, not to mention a freeway running through it.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Needless to say, you probably would have never seen a private builder build a building with a freeway through it. That kind of weirdness takes a politics. </p>
<p>If a private investment manager had done something like this and cost his private investors (say a bunch of retirees) $299,700,000 while walking away with a fat paycheck, leftists would declare this a sign of the inherent corruption and irrationality of the free-market and a clear indicator of the need for more regulation.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl from Chicago</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl from Chicago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 16:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jimbino, I am quite confident that $300,000 is &quot;low&quot; and $300 million is &quot;high&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jimbino, I am quite confident that $300,000 is &#8220;low&#8221; and $300 million is &#8220;high&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimbino</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimbino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 15:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wrong. &quot;Buy low, sell high&quot; is a silly rule everybody knows.

1. Nobody knows whether any given price, whether $300M or $300K is a &quot;high&quot; or a &quot;low.&quot;

2. An investment strategy of &quot;Buy high, sell low&quot; (buy if the price is higher than it was last month [or year, etc] and sell if lower) shows equivalent returns! Strange to you, maybe, but true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wrong. &#8220;Buy low, sell high&#8221; is a silly rule everybody knows.</p>
<p>1. Nobody knows whether any given price, whether $300M or $300K is a &#8220;high&#8221; or a &#8220;low.&#8221;</p>
<p>2. An investment strategy of &#8220;Buy high, sell low&#8221; (buy if the price is higher than it was last month [or year, etc] and sell if lower) shows equivalent returns! Strange to you, maybe, but true.</p>
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		<title>By: onparkstreet</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 13:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, my latest missive to the local paper (they try and play real estate in local gov. around here. It works out like you would think - they are always hiring consultants to tell them that they will recoup millions if they just give some developer dough to make more condos. In this enviroment. Yeah, it only works if you eventually cut spending. I digress.):

&quot;14 million dollars to a developer?

Don&#039;t even THINK about any new proposed taxes. If you have money to give developers, you don&#039;t need any more from me.&quot;

I&#039;m trying here, but I think I am banging my head against a wall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, my latest missive to the local paper (they try and play real estate in local gov. around here. It works out like you would think &#8211; they are always hiring consultants to tell them that they will recoup millions if they just give some developer dough to make more condos. In this enviroment. Yeah, it only works if you eventually cut spending. I digress.):</p>
<p>&#8220;14 million dollars to a developer?</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t even THINK about any new proposed taxes. If you have money to give developers, you don&#8217;t need any more from me.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m trying here, but I think I am banging my head against a wall.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl from Chicago</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl from Chicago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 02:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha ha your idea is good Jonathan but I think at an opening bidding of $300,000 for a property that they said had a replacement value of $300 MILLION (what is that, a tenth of 1%) I am pretty sure it is going to sell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha ha your idea is good Jonathan but I think at an opening bidding of $300,000 for a property that they said had a replacement value of $300 MILLION (what is that, a tenth of 1%) I am pretty sure it is going to sell.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 01:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, what&#039;s going to happen is that the govt agency in charge will decide that since the mkt is currently weak they won&#039;t sell. Instead they will lease the property out at a below-mkt rate that&#039;s guaranteed for thirty years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, what&#8217;s going to happen is that the govt agency in charge will decide that since the mkt is currently weak they won&#8217;t sell. Instead they will lease the property out at a below-mkt rate that&#8217;s guaranteed for thirty years.</p>
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		<title>By: Lexington Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lexington Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 22:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, probably so.  

It will be interesting to see who ends up with it, and what pittance they pay for it, and how much the city and county taxpayers subsidize whatever private, for-profit development occurs there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, probably so.  </p>
<p>It will be interesting to see who ends up with it, and what pittance they pay for it, and how much the city and county taxpayers subsidize whatever private, for-profit development occurs there.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl from Chicago</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl from Chicago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 21:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha ha fixed that direction

As for the conspiracy theories, I don&#039;t know.  This is Federally owned stuff, not necessarily locally corrupt.  I&#039;d say this is more ineptitude than potential corruption.

But really, this is just semantics, because ineptitude and corruption are both government hallmarks here, and in fact the net effect is the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha ha fixed that direction</p>
<p>As for the conspiracy theories, I don&#8217;t know.  This is Federally owned stuff, not necessarily locally corrupt.  I&#8217;d say this is more ineptitude than potential corruption.</p>
<p>But really, this is just semantics, because ineptitude and corruption are both government hallmarks here, and in fact the net effect is the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Lexington Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lexington Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 20:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...coming in from the East ...&quot;

Dude.  West.

Also, in most places I would say this incompetence.  But this is Cook County.  It is at least somewhat likely that there is someone out there who wants this building and is going to get it for peanuts in this market, and that is why this sale was delayed.  Conspiracy theories are not usually true.  But in Chicago, they all too often are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;coming in from the East &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Dude.  West.</p>
<p>Also, in most places I would say this incompetence.  But this is Cook County.  It is at least somewhat likely that there is someone out there who wants this building and is going to get it for peanuts in this market, and that is why this sale was delayed.  Conspiracy theories are not usually true.  But in Chicago, they all too often are.</p>
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