Tulip Revolution: The Dutch Vote it DOWN
Posted by Chicago Boyz Archive on June 1st, 2005 (All posts by Chicago Boyz Archive)
Oh man, this is so great: “…the constitution failed by a vote of 63 percent to 37 percent…” “…Turnout was 62 percent, far exceeding even the most optimistic expectations …” “…the high turnout and the decisive margin left no room for the Dutch parliament to turn its back on the people’s verdict…”
The spirit of William the Silent lives on! Or, the Dutch determination to keep their marijuana, prostitutes and euthanasia. But, whatever the motivation, it is their country to be run as they see fit, and bully for them for rejecting the 66,000 word abomination.
I think I am going to go out and buy some Dutch beer this weekend. (Anyone know which of these is good?)
UPDATE: It just occurred to me that this is one more instance of the people of a country rising up and peacefully defying their unelected masters. So, the Tulip Revolution belongs in the same category as the Orange Revolution, the Rose Revolution, etc. Not sure what to call what happened in France a few days ago … . Has Bush’s policy of spreading democracy started a global wave of democratization so big it is now even sloshing into Europe? Ha, how ironic, and how totally cool, if so.
June 1st, 2005 at 5:26 pm
hell yea we voted NO! and Blond beer is good :)
June 1st, 2005 at 5:44 pm
“whatever the motivation …”
The vast majority of the dutch (including me) want some form of co-operation with the rest of europe but not like this. We think it’s going way too fast and there we’re also afraid we won’t have much (any?) influence in Brussels. The majority of the dutch, and the rest of the eu, are opposed to a turkey membership, yet the EU continues to negotiate with them. There has been no referendum when brussels wanted to expand the eu with the eastern-european states. We almost doubled in size, and all of these countries are much poorer than we are. The dutch also really dislike the euro, which was forced upon us (no referendum).
“I think I am going to go out and buy some Dutch beer this weekend.”
I agree with Mike, the blond is very good :-)
June 1st, 2005 at 5:50 pm
Mike and Boudewijn, the blond beer it shall be.
“…some form of co-operation with the rest of europe but not like this.” Right, exactly. That is just common sense, one of the great virtues of democratic electorates.
You guys struck a blow for the future and the freedom of Europe and the world today. Bravo, and thanks from all of us Yanks who want only the best for the people of Europe in the future.
June 1st, 2005 at 6:03 pm
we know you do and you’re welcome :o)
June 1st, 2005 at 6:05 pm
Clear and simple: European cooperation, yes. European Constitution, no. I agree, though, with all the Dutch politicians who now cry, “Victory for democracy!”
Some politicians just need to get knocked around before they get it.
Treat yourself well. Vermeer is good, but the best blond beer I know is still Korenwolf.
June 1st, 2005 at 6:05 pm
French … Blue, Blanc, Rouge Revolution.
June 1st, 2005 at 6:22 pm
Maybe you all knew this, but if not here’s a comment (I assume accurate) from Zach Ei, which reinforces Lex’s point: “Has Bush’s policy of spreading democracy started a global wave of democratization so big it is now even sloshing into Europe?” The comment by “Miira”:
June 1st, 2005 at 6:33 pm
“Tulip Revolution”?
It seems to me that the Netherlands has a rather better claim to “Orange” than the Ukraine, but by whatever name, I applaud the self-determination.
June 1st, 2005 at 6:44 pm
Yeah, but Orange is taken, and there was a “rose” so “tulip” works.
June 1st, 2005 at 8:29 pm
So, the Tulip Revolution belongs in the same category as the Orange Revolution, the Rose Revolution, etc.
I think we should have some protest babes if it’s going to be a proper modern revolution. So far, all I see on the news is some pics of a dour old woman casting her ballot.
James
June 1st, 2005 at 9:23 pm
How about for the French: “The Cheese Revolution”?
June 1st, 2005 at 9:24 pm
Add my congratulations to the people of the Netherlands.
The Dutch have a 300 year history of tolerance and representative government. The notion that they would just swallow this steaming pile of you-know-what offered up by the Bruxelles curia as though it were a communion wafer is ludicrous.
All Europeans, especially the Dutch and my Polish relatives (and even my worthless French relatives) deserve a real constitition (should they desire it) carefully stipulating the respective powers of the EU and the national governments, not this compendium of socialist bureaucratic doggerel that guarantees only greater power and lusher sinecures for a deluded and out-of-touch elite.
Above all the EU needs a real means of representative control, and an upper house equally apportioned by nation, not by population, to guarantee that the rights of smaller countries are not trampled.
And fresh Oranjeboom in Amsterdam is better than any German beer (take that Ralf).
June 2nd, 2005 at 3:15 am
UP
Hilarious. I’m going to email this quote to some of my friends.
June 2nd, 2005 at 9:30 am
“Has Bush’s policy of spreading democracy started a global wave of democratization so big it is now even sloshing into Europe”.
Incredible. In the end, after congratulating the Dutch for being able to choose for themselves, it has to be about America and Bush’s foreign policy.
June 2nd, 2005 at 10:50 am
Eurobabble, that is really meant more as a joke. Lighten up, pour yourself a beer.
June 2nd, 2005 at 11:49 am
The national bird of France is the rooster. So call it the ‘Chicken Revolution’.
June 2nd, 2005 at 2:58 pm
i seem to recall that the kyrgyz revolution has used the name “tulip”, with georgia using rose and ukraine using orange. maybe “polder”, “dyke” (snicker), “dubel zel”, “marijuana”, or “blond” (for both beer and the preponderance of blondes in holland).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulip_Revolution
http://www.economist.com/agenda/displayStory.cfm?story_id=3785139
June 2nd, 2005 at 3:03 pm
“Eurobabble, that is really meant more as a joke. Lighten up, pour yourself a beer.”
In which case I apologise. I’m currently drinking that beer.
June 2nd, 2005 at 8:20 pm
“The national bird of France is the rooster. So call it the ‘Chicken Revolution’.”
Good one John. I was thinking yellow’s not taken yet, but you beat me to the punch. In French, the national rooster is Le Coq. So would it be “La Révolution de Coq”?