Via the usual source … Rosie O’Donnell 9/11 Conspiracy Comments: Popular Mechanics Responds.
I don’t mean to claim originality here; there will always be people who can’t read the signs of the times. The interesting thing is to see how similar their illogic is across supposedly insurmountable political boundaries. Consider WTC conspiracy theorists and antievolutionists.
The generic argument goes like this:
- An incremental mechanism does not produce immediately observable results; therefore
- That mechanism is insufficient; but
- Authorities continue to promulgate it; therefore
- There is a conspiracy to enforce adherence to dogma; when in fact
- Some completely different phenomenon was at work; and
- Acceptance of the reality of that phenomenon would delegitimize existing authorities.
So you get a nice, sinister, circular explanation of why the NIST — or the NCSE — keeps on trying to talk sense into people.
Also, if at all possible, the conspiracy should include elements of criminality, the more lurid the better — not so easy for antievolutionists, though see, for example, Jack Cashill’s Hoodwinked: How Intellectual Hucksters Have Hijacked American Culture for a valiant attempt. Ironically, the appeal of such ideas relies heavily on certain realities of evolutionary psychology. Use the formula I’ve outlined here, and you’re on the way to success by scratching those itching ears.
So while the people who prattle about microevolution never adding up to macroevolution, and the people saying fire won’t melt steel so there must have been demolition charges, are on precisely parallel tracks, let’s hope they remain parallel, in the sense of never getting together. The ensuing disaster would make 9/11 seem like, er, loose change.
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What? You mean Rosie O’Donnell’s years and years of pontificating on TV doesn’t qualify her as an expert in physics? Shocking!
Sorry. I couldn’t help myself.
In both cases you have people beginning with a conclusion, and then trying to fabricate a rational for that conclusion. Anti-evolutuionist begin with conclusion based on faith and then try to interpret scientific evidence so as to arrive at the conclusion mandated by their faith. Political conspiracy theorist begin with the idea that their political opponents are corrupt and then try to interpret events du jour to demonstrate that corruption.
To be mischievous, I should point out that the very first evolutionist did the same thing. In the mid-1700’s, long before any scientific evidence existed, atheist such as Diderot begin to propound proto-evolutionist ideas in order to support their support their atheist world views. Like creationist today, they began with their faith and then tried to create a rational to arrive at the conclusion mandated by that faith. This effect persist to this day when you see Leftist embracing evolutionary theory in the very vaguest terms so they can use it undermine religious authority but then reject its application to the study of human behavior because it contradicts the central tenets of their political beliefs.
The thing that always strikes me about the 9-11 conspiracy buffs is their inability to extrapolate. If they are correct, and BusHitler was willing to kill thousands as a way to create a push for war, why stop on 9-11? wouldn’t the admin then go on to a steady campaign of truck bombs, subway bombings, etc.? 30 or 40 truck bombs would have created a massive demand for martial law, suspension of habeas corpus, allout attack on Islamic states, etc.
In fact, I know someone who believes in the full gamut of 9/11 conspiracy theories and in young Earth creationism.
I suspect he is not alone, there are plenty of right wing crazies who strongly distrust the government, after all.
He also believes that the moon landings really happened, but all the video footage from them was made by Kubrick on a soundstage somewhere or the other.
The first time in history steel was melted by fire? wow…
A few million blacksmiths and swordmakers throughout the centuries will be shocked…
Ironically, steel is almost by definition required to start its life(having been converted from iron) in a state melted by fire…
Im an FDNY fireman. I was there on 9/11 and for months afterwards. I was there when WTC 7 collapsed. 7 WTC collapsed due to failure of the building’s steel support structure directly related to fire impingment. Steel is very strong but will fail under extreme heat conditions. For example, A 100′ section of steel I beam expands 9 1/2 in. when heated to 1100 deg. F. Rosie should educate herself before she makes grossly incideous and completly inaccurate statements. Read Collapse of Burning Buildings By Chief Vincent Dunn (written long before 9/11/01) and educate yourselves. Dunn retired as a Deputy Chief with 42 years of service in FDNY.
I’m not an engineer , so I can’t debunk these ridiculious theorys using physics, but I did find an argument from logic.
This is what I wrote on a Digg thread about this topic.
So then some brainless leftist responded with
“Retardo strikes again! According to you, Physics and scientific studies are crap, but what is really important is to understand Islamic Jihad? Oh and by the way, yes, we are people. What species are you?”
So I responded with
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