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  • Who Does That?

    Posted by Assistant Village Idiot on September 23rd, 2020 (All posts by )

    I read an article a week or two ago about the non-silence of many Trump voters, with a bit of cultural disdain for people who write TRUMP in big letters on the hulls of their boats.  Who does that?  You never saw anyone do that with Obama, however much they admired him. Fair enough.  That does seem a bit much, though no harm done.

    Who puts up lists of haranguing strawman criticisms in their yard, in rainbow colors?

     

    34 Responses to “Who Does That?”

    1. Brian Says:

      “Who does that?”
      The moment I knew Obama was going to win was on the 4th of July of 2008 at the Rose Bowl. There were Obama t-shirts everywhere. Hundreds of them. I’d never even seen one presidential-candidate’s-face-on-a-shirt at an everyday event before, and seemingly every other black person there had one–men, women, children. You can’t fake that kind of passionate support.

      Not that it means anything, but in upstate New York Trump yard signs, flags, etc., many homemade, are thick as flies. They were not that common four years ago, but they’re everywhere now.

    2. Mike K Says:

      There was a flap a week ago in Oro Valley, a suburb of Tucson , about yard signs. They were in violation of the state law about political signs. The sign makers added their candidate (It was Biden) and the HOA approved them. Nobody has to fear repercussions of a Biden sign.

    3. Kirk Says:

      Who does that? The same sort of weak-minded juvenile fools that wear Che T-shirts and don’t have a clue what the man really did. Also, the ones who join the Red Guards before it becomes fashionable, or the SA/SS before that became a mandatory thing.

      Any time you see signs of a “cult of personality”, it’s time to watch out. I am by no means an anti-Trump person, but I find the investment in his aura to be a pretty disturbing thing. I want to shake the idiots doing it and yell in their faces that Trump is a carnival barker doing a decent job of leading the country, not some infallible God-like being. The equivalent investment in Obama, Hillary, or Biden is just as disturbing, if not more so. These assholes are all venal politicians, not avatars of righteousness. People that do this sort of thing are immature, and should probably have their franchise pulled just on general principles.

      The real tragedy here is that Trump, today’s P.T. Barnum in all too many ways, is actually doing a much better job than the rest of the entire incompetency complex that is our political class. Said fact should tell you precisely why they’re so hot to get rid of him, and why they all need to be replaced from top to bottom and side to side. The fact that Trump has managed what he has with the permanent bureaucracy and the media against him speaks volumes as to how totally inept and corrupt they are, and how even a moderately honest and America-loving man can do a better job.

      Voted for Trump mostly as a vote against Hillary. Very pleasantly surprised at his performance over the last four years, and this time, I’m actually voting for him, if you catch my drift.

    4. Foxfier Says:

      Who puts up lists of haranguing strawman criticisms in their yard, in rainbow colors?

      No idea, we have the passive aggressive strawman criticisms here.

    5. Ginny Says:

      Don’t see around my area many of those signs – but they were numerous around my daughter’s in St. Louis two years ago. I guess it is a hectoring others, virtue signalling. But it is also incredibly stupid – only a stupid person, with little sense of the extraordinary value of America’s rights and apparently incapable of a moment’s self-examination, would put that up as their little Nicean creed.

    6. Gringo Says:

      Who does that? You never saw anyone do that with Obama, however much they admired him.

      There are many documented incidents of harassment of people wearing Trump paraphernalia but I don’t recall reading about incidents of harassment of people wearing Obama or Hillary paraphernalia.

    7. The Dark Lord Says:

      A big “I DIDN’T BUILD THIS !!!” sign maybe

    8. Xennady Says:

      I remember a local news story in 2008 about a man who used black spray paint to put “Obama” all over the outside of his house, including on the roof.

      I don’t doubt he supported Obama, but I suspect mental illness was also a factor.

    9. Mike K Says:

      Only a single example but a pretty impressive one.

      Biden voters tried to burn down the home of some one with a Trump yard sign.

      Then spray painted “Biden 2020” and BLM on the garage door.

      The Democrats’ vow to “burn everything down” if they don’t get their way is allegedly being fulfilled. Last night in Brooklyn Center, Minnesota, unknown arsonists attacked the home of two Trump supporters, burning the family’s garage and several vehicles and destroying a large Trump sign in their yard:

      Minnesota but not a big city.

    10. Kirk Says:

      Don’t be too terribly surprised when this all goes kinetic, and these “protesters” are shot down in job lots by people tired of all this.

      Also, don’t be too amazed when the enablers like that woman in Louisville gets doxed and has her house burnt down by counter-“protesters” who figure that if it is good for the goose, then it’s good for the gander.

      These idiots do not realize what they are playing with. There are not enough cops or National Guardsmen in this country to try to stop the heavily-armed majority of the general public who decide they’ve had enough of this. BLM and their little red “allies” probably consist of maybe a firm 10-15% of the population. The rest of it gets tired of their antics, and you’re looking at a societal “Shoot, shovel, and shut up about it” resembling nothing any of the various Communist urban warfare theorists have either considered or encountered. In Chile and Argentina, it was the military that formed a junta and tossed many of their minions out of helicopters at sea; here in the US, it’s gonna be “vigilance committees” that spontaneously form up and then act. It won’t be pretty, and the end state is going to make everyone wish they’d done something else other than what they did.

    11. Kirk Says:

      Oh, yeah… The “woman in Louisville” I refer to is the Soros-affiliated chick who rented the U-Haul truck they hauled all their toys to the riot site with.

      At some point, these people are going to wish they’d been arrested by the Feds for Rico violations, because the citizenry isn’t going to put them up in plush cells with all the amenities. The citizenry is just going to set them on fire, after shooting them.

    12. Mike K Says:

      At some point, these people are going to wish they’d been arrested by the Feds for Rico violations,

      This is why Soros loaded the blue cities with radical left DAs. When the rioters get to red cities, mostly suburbs, we will see what happens.

      If I had a Trump sign in my front yard, it would be good to have surveillance cameras.

    13. Assistant Village Idiot Says:

      My experience is that the right-wing, even when well-armed, tends to take a defensive posture rather than going out after others, while the left goes on offense, though they have heretofore mostly confined themselves to destruction of property.

      Both those fences seem to be showing breaks, which worries me.

    14. PubliusII Says:

      “…Both those fences seem to be showing breaks, which worries me.”

      Me too, but we didn’t write the rules of engagement. When push comes to shove, the Left will regret that its tactics cleared the way for identical ones to be used against them.

    15. Shawna W Monson Says:

      Nobody did that with Obama? Don’t you remember the Chia Pet Obama? Or the screen doors with Obama’s portrait that could be purchased? Real things. Look them up.

    16. OBloodyHell Says:

      }}} When push comes to shove, the Left will regret that its tactics cleared the way for identical ones to be used against them.

      What do you think the whole Kyle Rittenhouse thing is about?

      “You SHOT me!”

      “What did you think was going to happen? I had a gun, and you had a rock, and were making to throw the rock at me! Are you STUPID? Don’t answer that. We know the answer.”

    17. Brian Says:

      Um, Kyle was moments from being executed, and he was arrested for murder within hours. I still have not seen it explained how they could possibly have done an investigation and gotten an indictment that fast. I guarantee that if had failed to defend himself, his killers would have not been arrested.

    18. Mike K Says:

      Nobody did that with Obama? Don’t you remember the Chia Pet Obama?

      So, you consider riots and murder equivalent to Chia pets?

    19. Kirk Says:

      Mike, don’t you know the rules? Conservative speech is violence, and violence is left-wing speech. It’s been like that since the Spartacists were rioting in Weimar with their ideological twins, the Nazis.

    20. Gringo Says:

      Shawna W Monson:

      Nobody did that with Obama? Don’t you remember the Chia Pet Obama?

      Mike K in reply:

      So, you consider riots and murder equivalent to Chia pets?

      I believe she was comparing Chia Pet Obama to painting “TRUMP” on a boat, which some on the left believe to be an example of deranged Trump-worship.

    21. Mike K Says:

      I believe she was comparing Chia Pet Obama to painting “TRUMP” on a boat

      I think, if she had meant that comparison, a better one would be the rodeo clown who wore an Obama mask and was fired. Sacrilege!

    22. miguel cervantes Says:

      there was some crazy person who had all sorts of obama iconography around him, including tattoos, and a pattern on his head, of course showtime featured that idiot in one of their documentaries instead of relegating him to obscurity, I think that was in 2013, when it aired,

    23. Brian Says:

      “I think, if she had meant that comparison, a better one would be the rodeo clown who wore an Obama mask and was fired. Sacrilege!”
      No, because that would have made no sense. She was objecting to the point (that was sarcasm, which she missed) that no one worshipped Obama the way that some people “worship” Trump, and using the Obama Chia Head as a counterexamples.

    24. Assistant Village Idiot Says:

      Back to the idea of posting hectoring lists in your yard of what you don’t like: I compare it to bumperstickers. Back in the 1970s, a a person with lots of stickers all over the car might be anything, a religious person, someone who drove a lot of places, sometimes a conservative with a dozen causes, sometimes a liberal. Gradually those others ahve gone away, and if you come up behind a car with six stickers on the back it’s 90% sure it’s a liberal. The stickers are short sermons, you see, not just for candidates or causes proper, but more subtly for NPR, Forest Societies, or liberal colleges.

      I guess preaching via their cars wasn’t enough, and now they have to enlist their shirts and yards. Conservatives seem to prefer flags: Gadsden, various Thin Lines, Betsy Ross, armed services, sometimes their state flag (depending), and of course plain American. I like it.

    25. OBloodyHell Says:

      Brian Says:
      Um, Kyle was moments from being executed, and he was arrested for murder within hours. I still have not seen it explained how they could possibly have done an investigation and gotten an indictment that fast. I guarantee that if had failed to defend himself, his killers would have not been arrested.

      Of course. That’s my point. He was clearly defending himself, and yet they want him strung up.

      Oh, and when he is let off, they’ll riot some more.

      Because they entire idea is that the Left gets to do anything they want, and everyone else must accept it.

    26. Brian Says:

      OBH: I was objecting to your hypothetical that mentioned shooting someone who had a rock. They were coming after Kyle with guns. He didn’t escalate anything, he was reasonably defending himself against deadly force.

    27. Gavin Longmuir Says:

      AVI: “Back in the 1970s, a a person with lots of stickers all over the car might be anything, a religious person, someone who drove a lot of places, sometimes a conservative with a dozen causes, sometimes a liberal. Gradually those others have gone away …”

      Anecdote: a lady told me she used occasionally to put bumper stickers on her car — not any of the Far Left variety. Then one time some years ago she came back to her car in a shopping center parking lot and found it had been damaged, keyed by someone who objected to her bumper stickers. Now she does not put bumper stickers on her car. Nor do any of her friends to whom she has told this tale.

      It is possible that the “others” going away was an early sign of the rising tide of Left Wing violence we now face. Far Lefties have no compunction about destroying other people’s property, whereas normal people respect other people’s right to free speech. Those who preach “tolerance” are a remarkably intolerant bunch.

    28. ed in texas Says:

      Down the road from me is a fellow, a senior union steward at a local chemical plant. Union democrat thru and thru. He has Biden signs in his yard (where previously there were ‘Beto’ signs).
      The guy across the street from him has cut out plywood ‘TRUMP’ letters in his yard. Painted white with gltter. Trimmed in red and blue. I noticed today going past the he’s added lights so the letters are illuminated at night.

      I’m waiting to see if they have a block party come election day.

    29. MCS Says:

      I’m waiting to see if the NFL ratings stay stay in the gutter. I’m betting that most of the people not watching aren’t Biden voters. Still have yet to see any except local signs in my abbreviated perambulations.

      I wonder if a lot of the big woke businesses realize how much they are turning off half or more of their customers.

      We’re going to see if mass voter intimidation is a working strategy. I’m betting not.

      My imagination isn’t up to the task of imagining a sane person that would vote for that doddering demented fool and that was forty years ago.

    30. Gringo Says:

      MCS
      I wonder if a lot of the big woke businesses realize how much they are turning off half or more of their customers.

      I have noticed that some Wal-Mart business decisions are “woke.” For some groceries, a Wal-Mart is close and with OK prices, but I have used it less since reading about some of its “woke” decisions.

    31. MCS Says:

      We might start to see businesses start to divide into two groups.

      The first, where the “wokness” is driven by true believers from the top will just get worse to punish all the heretics and unbelievers. It’s pleasant to hope that their sun will start to set.

      The second is driven by the calculation that they are cultivating the support of the true believers while the rest of us will simply ignore it. If they see evidence that it might be costing them money, it will end faster than they change the color of the door mats.

      I also patronize Wal-Mart. The general incompetence of their management makes me think the next real estate billionaire will be whoever figures out a profitable use for lots of empty quarter million sf buildings. I doubt they can move into on-line faster than they are pissing off their in-person customers. I would put them into the second category.

    32. MCS Says:

      Here’s a half million that won’t be buying a riot. Maybe Trump should pardon him for his support of law and order and a civil society.
      https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/atlanta/atlanta-based-activist-allegedly-used-blm-group-launder-more-than-200k-personal-purchases-fbi-says/IO7SSWUMDZEVLFKBKZQFI57LHM/

      I note he’s another loyal Wal-Mart customer.

    33. Gurwinder Says:

      I first became annoyed by these virtue-signaling bumper stickers/yard signs back in the early ‘90s with the classic, “Hatred is not a family value” inanity.

    34. MCS Says:

      If you could burn pretentious sanctimony, the whole world could be carbon neutral in a month just from U.S. production.