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  • Where are the Protesters?

    Posted by Carl from Chicago on July 10th, 2009 (All posts by )

    The photos from Iran are genuinely heartbreaking. You have unarmed men, women and students, out peacefully protesting that an election has been obviously stolen, and illiterate thugs, many whom are not even Iranian citizens, come out and attack them with truncheons and batons and take them away in the dead of night. THEIR RIGHTS TO FREE ELECTIONS HAVE BEEN STOLEN.

    Where are the protests in the USA and London? I am talking about the local art schools, the ones that couldn’t get enough of protesting the Iraq war and similar types of incidents, that close so that all the students can flood the streets? The anarchists all in black smashing store windows? Where are they?

    And now in China, after the government cracked down on Tibet (thanks, Beastie Boys, for all their support, it helped a lot) they are now going after other indigenous groups with mobs of bat wielding Han Chinese citizens specifically imported in to take over the local province. They are threatening executions, too. THEIR RIGHTS TO INDIGENOUS CUSTOMS AND SELF DETERMINATION ARE BEING STOLEN.

    And what about protesting the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan? I guess since they are now Obama’s wars, not such a big deal anymore.

    The odd thing is that our “protest class” has been specifically groomed since childhood to view one thing and one thing only as “evil” and protest worthy – basically white Republicans (it isn’t a male thing – look at Palin). This is what gets their ire and gets them to the street, not the actual level of injustice.

    And if you met these protesters in person – their arrogance is breathtaking. Their most immediate attack on Republicans is that they are all “hypocrites”. Since most of you don’t live in a major city that is all-Obama you probably don’t run into them as often as I do. But what type of hypocrisy ignores these obvious types of injustices and focuses only on a certain subset?

    This isn’t a “generational” thing – look at who is fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan – an all volunteer force that is the best and most professional military that ever walked the planet – and they are young people of roughly the same age as the “protest class”.

    Protesting against Republicans is all that they have been taught, and all that they know.

     

    14 Responses to “Where are the Protesters?”

    1. Dan from Madison Says:

      “And now in China, after the government cracked down on Tibet (thanks, Beastie Boys, for all their support, it helped a lot)…”

      In the end all of the concerts, peace marches and letter writing campaigns (and “free tibet” bumper stickers, of course) don’t do a thing for anyone, besides the people doing the letter writing and bumper stickering themselves. I guess it makes them feel good.

      Nobody really wants to get down to the dirty work of getting those people GUNS, the only thing that will help them.

      In other words, a “free tibet” bumper sticker might as well say “f1ck Tibet, I feel good”.

    2. Sherman Silver Says:

      Why turn your nice piece into a rant about the Left? Are you doing any organizing or just protesting at the keyboartd?

    3. david foster Says:

      Neptunus Lex:

      “The innate character flaw of the political right, with its thrumming appeals to the logic of blood and soil, is its lamentable tendency to go in search of enemies abroad. The left, on the other hand, with its own appeals to the politics of envy and class warfare, is content to find mortal enemies closer to hand.”

      Hence, the primary attack focus on the Left must be either on enemies at home, or on foreign enemies which are viewed as closely sharing values with the enemies at home (ie, Israel). It’s pretty clear that Obama, for example, regards the events in Iran, etc as an irritating distraction from the domestic struggle.

    4. Jonathan Says:

      ,protesting at the keyboartd

      Fred, is that you?

    5. sol vason Says:

      In order to have a good protest you need to
      1. buy blank sign stock, bullhorns, and comm devices
      2. create a message
      a. words
      b. grapics
      c. artistry (to get properomemade look)
      4. Have your people properly dressed

      This requires that you maintain an army of people who are ready to march for the cause de jour. This requires lots of money to:
      a. maintain contact with each protestor through out the year
      b. provide motivation to your troops (money, sex, food, drink, camraderie, thrills, etc)
      c. discipline/terminate outliers

      In order to have rapid response capability you need people who will demonstrate TODAY, not next week or next month.

      This type of spontaneous organization needs lots of money to create and maintain. It needs highly professional community organizers who are smart enough to get the job done but dumb enough to do what they are told to do.

      There were no demonstrations over Iran’s or China’s actions because the people who own the demonstrators did not call out the demonstrators. We know who they are. They are the same people who funded Obama and gave him his money.

    6. BamaTex Says:

      Bravo Carl–I have come to the obvious conclusion that the only thing the left-nuts want is to be the very hostile anti-right. They believe that they believe in lefty issues, but they really don’t. How else to explain the lefties refusal to condemn radical Islam, despite the fact that radical Islam stands against everything the lefties claim to stand for? Answer: lefties believe they share with radical Islam a common enemy–conservatives. Damn the common good, common sense, history, facts, the Constitution, sanity, prosperity, peace, security, and happiness if it causes white Republicans to suffer.

    7. Eddie Says:

      There have been mainly candlelight vigils in support of the protesters. As an international issue that can’t be directly influenced by voters, a “protest” anywhere but at a center of power (the Congress, the Iranian consulate (if there was such a thing), the White House, etc) would be a giant waste of time.

      A protest about the Iraq War on the other hand makes sense darn near anywhere you have it (save for a military funeral or even a military base, these are just tasteless) because the people watching the protest do have a direct influence via their votes, their letters to their congressmen and their opinion polling inputs.

      As far as Iraq, I had varying experiences with Iraq War protesters that caused conflicted feelings about the point of the exercise. The ones on Colby Ave in Everett, WA in 2007 (a Navy town north of Seattle and home to Boeing manufacturing) were overwhelmingly polite and highlighted by people who used good humor and neighborly attitudes with the counter-protesters who would line up on the other side. I was offered a glass of kool-aid (go figure!) by a woman with her young child when I happened to walk by on my way to my ship. These people were anti-war but did so in a way that wasn’t offensive or even that dumb (they talked up high deficits, broken promises, failed strategies, Iraqi sectarian warfare and outright lies by high officials).

      When visiting family in Miami later that year, I was disturbed by the vulgarity and violent antics of the protesters at American Airlines Arena.

    8. veryretired Says:

      You are complaining about the lack of a coherent response based on principle on the part of the many protest groups who routinely appear in the streets, and media, protesting acts by the US or her allies.

      Your mistake is accepting the protesters self-definition as activists motivated by moral priciples. This is part of the collectivist mythology which allows those who are basically immoral/amoral to masquerade as principled moralists responding to a higher calling than mere patriotism or nationalsim.

      These myths, including such things as intellectual sophistication, tolerance, open mindedness, compassion, moral sensitivity, as well as principled morality in the case of political or military actions, are utterly self-serving.

      Their purpose is to cause others to make the very assumptions upon which you write this post—the implicit presence of coherent moral principles in their activites—and therefore cede to the collectivist’s street theater a moral position it could never achieve if they were judged by the standard of who they supported and who they opposed.

      If, for example, ANSWER was not allowed to parade itself as a self-defined anti-war and anti-racism organization, but was correctly described in any and all instances as a marxist front group whose only purpose and activity was anti-American propaganda, this bizarre con game would soon be exposed for the scam it is.

      Unfortunately, much of the media and intelligentsia, especially internationally, share many of the conceits and mythology of the protesters, so questionong that facade never occurs to them.

      I realize that part of what you are saying is—Look how inconsistent and hypocritical they are, but what I am trying to respond is that the way they react to these various situations is, in fact, completely consistent with who they truly are.

      As the blogfather says, they are not anti-war, they’re just on the other side.

    9. Rush Baby Says:

      [i]The odd thing is that our “protest class” has been specifically groomed since childhood to view one thing and one thing only as “evil” and protest worthy – basically [b]white[/b] Republicans (it isn’t a male thing – look at Palin)[/i]

      Forgot Clarence Thomas?

    10. Rush Baby Says:

      Well that didn’t work.

    11. Bill Waddell Says:

      I suppose there is a certain lack of tact in quoting Ted “The Unabomber” Kaczynski, but he did what he did alone because of the rampant hypocracy he found in his fellow anti-industrialist travelers. His explanation of this and similar leftist behavior is as follows (from the Unabomber Manifesto):

      15. “Leftists tend to hate anything that has an image of being strong,
      good and successful. They hate America, they hate Western
      civilization, they hate white males, they hate rationality. The
      reasons that leftists give for hating the West, etc. clearly do not
      correspond with their real motives. They SAY they hate the West
      because it is warlike, imperialistic, sexist, ethnocentric and so
      forth, but where these same faults appear in socialist countries or in
      primitive cultures, the leftist finds excuses for them, or at best he
      GRUDGINGLY admits that they exist; whereas he ENTHUSIASTICALLY points
      out (and often greatly exaggerates) these faults where they appear in
      Western civilization. Thus it is clear that these faults are not the
      leftist’s real motive for hating America and the West. He hates
      America and the West because they are strong and successful.”

      and …

      21. “Leftists may claim that their activism is motivated by compassion
      or by moral principle, and moral principle does play a role for the
      leftist of the oversocialized type. But compassion and moral principle
      cannot be the main motives for leftist activism. Hostility is too
      prominent a component of leftist behavior; so is the drive for power.
      Moreover, much leftist behavior is not rationally calculated to be of
      benefit to the people whom the leftists claim to be trying to help.”

      The first several sections of the Manifesto make for an interesting read if you haven’t had the pleasure. You can find the whole thing at http://cyber.eserver.org/unabom.txt

    12. renminbi Says:

      A friend observed that one motive for attending protests was to get a piece of tail.

    13. Gary Ogletree Says:

      Protesting is not a waste of time. It brings like minded people together with the potential that implies. It reminds the criminals in China, Iran, Venezuela, etc., that we oppose them and stand with their victims. One should feel good from exercising your freedom of speech and assembly. Finding a way to get guns and ammo to the opposition is even better.

    14. Dan from Madison Says:

      Renminbi – funny.