I am not a Trump supporter but I enjoy the outrage in which the corrupt GOP establishment views him.
Now he has done it ! He won’t be in the Thursday debate. I agree that Megyn Kelly acted like a school girl in the first debate. I don’t blame him for resenting the way she acted. The establishment GOP are criticizing Trump for dropping out. Personally, I think a Trump-Sanders debate would be entertaining. The Weekly Standard is as looney as The National Review.
Then, he dropped a bombshell !
Personally, I think this is hilarious. Hillary was the source of the original questions about Obama’s birth. I think he was born in Hawaii but I also think he used his alleged foreign birth as a way to get favors at east coast colleges, like Columbia and Harvard. Nobody seems to remember him at Columbia.
I, for one, am enjoying the show.
I am not amused. Trump is a buffoon and boor. He has been a liberal Democrat all of his life, and NR and Weekly Standard, which are self identified as conservative publications are quite right to oppose him.
Ms. Kelly is a brilliant, and beautiful, young woman. I take her part in any argument.
Regards Trump —
If you are going nuclear, Go *NUCLEAR*.
I think Kelly was unprofessional in the first debate. Usually I like her but that was not a good night for Fox.
The question she asked was more personal than those she asked of others, but then, exactly what could you ask him about policy – he was going to be huuuuge, etc. He was a winner. And it was the kind of question he was going to be asked over and over. I’ll admit he changed the game and questions like that were shed from his back like water droplets on a beaver coat. But she didn’t know that then, nobody did. And his complaints afterwards were tasteless as well as without substance – ad hominem at her, at everyone else; this loses its charm fairly quickly. I just don’t want anyone in there that has his principles, his vision of politics as deal making (yes, it is deal making – but his idea of it is painfully close to the Clinton’s) and, most of all, his ideas on eminent domain. His response those days like his response now is that of an adolescent bully. We’ve had enough of adolescent bullies who use the greatest office on earth as an entitlement.
Yeah, I always figured he was like Wade Churchill and Elizabeth Warren and that Dolezal person, etc. – “being” whatever was convenient and profitable. It also probably led to easier grading – I tend to grade non-native speakers a bit easier.
This is a Trump supporter view of Trump’s withdrawl from the Fox Debate
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This is an obvious attack that they will do. It is a calculated risk Trump has taken.
Based on what I am seeing it is already paying off handsomely.
The GOPe and Media are discombobulated.
The Candidates are FREAKED OUT.
The media competition is loving it and knocking FOX.
Megyn Kelly is looking increasingly like damaged goods.
Trump just blew the cuddly establishment strategy to kingdom come.
Cruz just lost his last chance to operate his pre-planned debate strategy to go for Trump.
Ailes is lost in his own mind.
Murdock is wondering how FOX just royally screwed themselves.
Levin is having a nervous breakdown.
Trump controls the news cycle until the Iowa Caucus.
Trump has a blast for the next 24 hours watching everyone spin their heels.
Jeb Bush is running to Momma asking for another promo.
Did I miss anything ? :)
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The way I see it, attacking the media with the idea of making a honking big financial loss example of one of the cable or broadcast networks is a plus for Trump with his supporters, and he had it planned for some time.
And Alies, Fox News, Rupuert Murdock and the others behind the GOPe didn’t see this coming.
That Trump would walk away from a bad deal GOP Debate was not in their strategy tree, even though it was in his book.
Excellent post. The only thing you left out was the snarky insult one of the Fox News people used to trash T-rump.
To me it looks more like a temper tantrum and I’m taking my marbles and going home. It may work. Everything he does seems to. I stand with Megyn on this. Not because she’s Megyn, but I think Trump is out of line here, not her. And I agree that this is circus level entertainment.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/studentid.asp
The real question that baffles me is not why is Trump is boycotting this debate, but why any repub candidate ever subjects themselves to these liberal media gotcha fests.
Given Trump’s popularity in this election cycle, the party should have set up its own debates with conservative moderators and let the media bid to buy the rights.
The whole thing is a phony media circus anyway, and no one expects any substantive arguments about any meaningful issue. Given the bizarre nature of the lineups from both parties this cycle, with the repubs putting on a dozen candidates while the dems have two geriatric loonies and an ex-governor that no one pays any attention to anyway, why does anyone bother.
Trump, at least, realized that the whole crazy mess was pure show biz, not any form of actual debate on issues, and blew everyone else away.
What I think is going to be interesting is who will blink first about moderators, and what the media reaction will be on the nasty scale when they realize Trump’s stuck his finger in their eye again, and his numbers still go up no matter what PC nonsense they try to use against him.
I don’t support the guy, but the circus is fun, and this one is three or four rings going all the time.
Dr. Kennedy,
Did Trump really just re-release that ID card? I can’t find anything about it. Eric noted Snopes. Now Snopes is a Democrat front [the couple running it are DNC operatives]; but they did, accurately, debunk that ID card. They did not use the digital format back then.
I do note that they support the “original” Obama birth certificate that Obama released, despite the name of the hospital on the certificate being the current name. Which was not the name of the hospital until after a merger some 10 years after he was born.
There are some questions about his college years, related to his visit to Pakistan as described in his autobiography. At the time he visited, Pakistan absolutely barred US citizens other than diplomats, as we had sanctions on them. They allowed Indonesian nationals to come and go freely. And there is not now, nor has there ever been, dual US and Indonesian citizenship. If he claimed Indonesian citizenship and got an Indonesian passport, he renounced US citizenship.
In any case, are y’all pullin’ our collective lariats???
Fox News’ tweet about the Ayatollah and Putin was unprofessional in the extreme. It was an unnecessary own-goal. Megyn Kelly and Fox could have simply stated their refusal to take Kelly off the moderator panel, but instead, they poured fuel on the fire. I don’t blame Trump for refusing to participate in their debate. They deliberately goaded him; he stood up for himself; case closed. But now, Megan Kelly has invited Michael Moore to be on her show. Okay? In what world does Fox News invite Michael Moore on to help him sell his books? In Lib World. Do we hear Nat Review complaining? Crickets. Fox News can take their Open Borders/Common Core-Loving Crew and shove it. Their viewers don’t appreciate their One-World Propaganda Mission. We love our country. Rupert Murdoch isn’t invested in America; we are.
I like that card: the allusion to Columbia’s former name is rather elegantly done.
As for the O: I’ve always assumed that he was born in the US but I’d still like to know more about all the things he’s hidden concerning his early life.
Michael Hiteshew,
Your reaction is a good reason why Trump is going to be President.
Please be aware that in addition to that unprofessional Ailes/Fox News press release, it came out Fox had three Bernie Sanders Muslim supporters in the audience of the Debate to ask Trump “gotcha” questions with full moderator — AKA Megyn Kelly school girl antic — support.
That is a Breitbart headline all over Trump supporter web sites and Twitter.
What Trump did to Fox was not a temper tantrum.
It was calculated and staffed all to hell ahead of time. Trump is conducting a hostile take over of a political party. The destruction of the media wing of the GOP was always on his agenda.
This is a profound observation of what Trump did from one of his supporters:
I’m glad Trump is doing battle with the media. George W. never would stand up to either the media or the loony left who called him Hitler and everything else. I used to long for him to JUST ONCE say “ENOUGH! You have gone too far!” In attacking George W., they were attacking all of us, too. And W. never got that. He just rolled over, and the attacks became more and more virulent. We were left voiceless. Our representatives in DC were no help either”¦ they quivered under their desks, spineless cowards.
Therefore, I say a big THANK YOU to Donald J. Trump! In insulting him, the media/RNC/left is attacking his supporters as well. We’ve had more than a gut full, but we have little voice other than Trump himself. And Trump doesn’t “take it” like W., or cower like our DC representatives, thank God! So tear ’em up, Donald! We appreciate it”¦
The implications for Trump supporters is clear. This Trump “temper tantrum,” for them, wasn’t.
It was:
“Trump just shot Fox News in the middle of 5th Avenue.”
You can’t say that Trump didn’t warn Fox News what was coming. Trump telegraphs like that all the time, if you bother to listen.
However, for the reasons Trump’s actions was profound, you really need to read this
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2016/01/26/americans_tired_of_elites_considering_them_stupid_and_vicious_129441.html
Americans Tired of Elites Considering Them Stupid and Vicious
By Michael Barone
January 26, 2016
How stupid and vicious do they think we are? That’s a question that I think explains a lot of things about politics and society today — and about this year’s unpredicted presidential race.
The “us” in that question are ordinary citizens and the “they” are political and media elites who hold them in contempt — which they do over and over again by trying to obfuscate and cover up the source and motives of terrorist attacks.
>snip<
The whole Barone piece is wonderful, but the first two sentences are the gist of it.
Trump is making it him and his heavily non-voting supporters versus the media and political establishment they all hate. AKA Trump is motivating hisr four time presidential non-voter supports to vote for him to spite an enemy they hate. That is pure 19th Century Jacksonian identity politics.
Trump has since gone all John Houseman/PAPER CHASE on Fox on-air talent and told all and sundry at Fox he will only speak to Rupert Murdoch himself in the future.
Fox News, by Sh**ing on Trump, just tubed their ratings for the rest of the Presidential campaign. And Trump just gathered cross over support from a lot of Democrats who hate Fox News and enjoy Trump kicking Rupert Murdoch's boys and soft porn crotch flashing media girls in the collective teeth. HOLD THAT THOUGHT.
You will be running into it a lot in the future.
“In any case, are y’all pullin’ our collective lariats???”
No, I think Michael’s point about the bar code was good. I am just amused about the whole contretemps.
Fox baited Trump with Kelly and then with the offensive tweet (or whatever it is) and he charged the red flag. Will it hurt him or Fox ?
I don’t know. I just enjoy the show. All the rules are out the window.
The voters will decide and I’m OK with that.
I have a sneaking suspicion that Trump is a reverse Goldwater but I have no idea if that is the case.
Mike K,
where is is written that politicians have to be trained dancing bears for a media circus setting up to do the following?
Google and Fox TV Invite Anti-Trump, Hitler-Citing, Muslim Advocate to Join Next GOP TV-Debate
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/01/26/2868743/
Fox News and Google have invited three YouTube personalities to ask questions at the Jan. 28 GOP debate ”” including a Muslim advocate who describes Donald Trump as a bigot and who visually portrayed him as being in agreement with national socialist Adolf Hitler.
Trump telling the media to see both his middle fingers seems appropriate to a whole lot of voters.
And it is a damned good reason to say Michael Barone is right.
Trump does these temper tantrums all the time. It isn’t a strategic move by Henry Kissinger’s ghost. Remember didn’t he say that he’d stay in the GOP race if the party was “nice to him”? What kind of rational adult talks like this?
He’s only perceived as a great deal maker from his own press releases and reality TV shows. A list of the top 10 NYC real estate tychoons in 2013 had Trump at 7th place of the top 10. http://rew-online.com/2013/11/27/new-yorks-10-richest-real-estate-tycoons/?pid=2259 Of course he claims he’s wealthier based on his own estimates of his personal “goodwill” value. He claims Bloomberg is not as wealthy as claimed (reported) but $39B for Mike far exceeds even the Trump reported $9B.
He dabbles in business ventures that almost all fail outside of real estate (Trump Magazines, Steaks, Wines, Airlines, Trump U ) because he has no interest in the hard work of management. He’s not as smart as people think he must be. They do this to excuse themselves from supporting such an adolescent 70 year old.
The Muslim “activist” expelled from the rally was a well known agitator. The invitation reeks of bias and may be the real reason he dropped out. I suspect he has people telling him inside stuff.
The two companies announced Tuesday afternoon that the anti-Trump Muslim advocate would be allowed to play a role in the debate.
Google is teaming up with the Fox News Channel for the final Republican debate in Iowa on Thursday, January 28, 2016, and integrating three new components into the debate to help people get informed before they head to the polls, including a way to hear directly from candidates on Google; real-time Google Trends data; and questions from three of YouTube’s most prominent voices””Nabela Noor, Mark Watson, and Dulce Candy ”” who will join the moderators in the debate to ask the candidates a question on an issue that matters to them and their communities.
The Republican National Committee also approved the choice of Noor, an LA.-based press aide for YouTube, Jackie Cavanagh, at MPRM Communications, told Breitbart. “I believe” she was chosen by YouTube, with help from the RNC and Fox, she said.
This will deflect any sincere criticism from Trump. Amazing decision by the RNC.
I like it. It exhibits a willingness to go at the seemingly untouchable 44th. Plenty of unanswered questions regarding that individual. I’ve never been sure of Trump, but it’s great to see the legacy media, uni-party, apple-cart upended.
Obama’s mother and stepfather both worked for and with the CIA. His mom pulled strings to get him into Columbia and get him a job briefly working with a CIA front company after graduation. That’s why he doesn’t want to talk about it. It would ruin his Leftist credibility.
It looks like he did, however, go by “Obama”. Here’s some claptrap he wrote for some student rag showcasing nuclear disarmament.
What’s interesting is the contrast between the efforts to keep Obama’s past buried, and the assault on Ted Cruz about his time at Princeton. Cruz’s old roommate has found a new career attacking him over things that happened when they were teenagers.
>>Remember didn’t he say that he’d stay in the GOP race if the party was “nice to him”?
>>What kind of rational adult talks like this?
One that has a $10 billion dollar real estate and media empire and that is winning the Republican Presidential nomination.
Making people mistake Trump’s Shtick for Trump the business man and power politician is often how he wins.
Ailes should announce that Megyn is off the panel and being replaced by Clint Eastwood.
What kind of rational adult talks like this?
I often have that question of politicians. Never have a good answer.
Subotai Bahadur:
“Eric noted Snopes. Now Snopes is a Democrat front [the couple running it are DNC operatives]; but they did, accurately, debunk that ID card.”
Really? That’s disillusioning. At least the page I cited was on the mark. I knew Politifact was misinformation, but I thought Snopes could be relied on.
Subotai Bahadur:
“I do note that they support the “original” Obama birth certificate that Obama released, despite the name of the hospital on the certificate being the current name. Which was not the name of the hospital until after a merger some 10 years after he was born.”
Perhaps it’s “original” in the sense that it’s sourced directly from the hospital, which would print out a copy with current letterhead, not in the sense that it’s the original document produced at Obama’s birth.
I’m curious. How do you obtain your birth certificate if you don’t have a copy and the hospital you were born in closed down years ago?
This is wild, in the last 2 weeks Trump has destroyed the credibility of Fox News, the National Review and The Weekly Standard. A month ago he effectively took out Bill Clinton. In the case of NR and TWS, completely unforced errors.
I am not a Trump supporter, at least he is not my first choice, but I hand it to him, this has been quite a ride.
It’s not that Trump is a genius, tho clearly he and his team have something on the ball. But what we are seeing is the revelation that the GOP establishment speaks for nobody but themselves and their narrow client group. Maybe a few hundred thousand people out of about 200 million eligible to vote.
And they still don’t get it–every time they attack Trump for saying or doing what anyone in their right mind would say or do if they weren’t scared, they make him stronger and themselves sillier.
Trump is, obviously, no Lincoln, but I am beginning to think we are looking at a major realignment of political parties over the next decade or two. The Democrats are quickly becoming European Social Democrats if not just Socialists. The GOP has abandoned its demographic base in favor of its moneyed supporters, but without voters it will wind up with neither people nor money in another cycle or two. And about 80-100 million people have been cut loose from the 2 parties and will be looking for a political home.
This must be what 1852 felt like.
Jerome Corsi is considered a wild-eyed conspiracy theorist, but he has some interesting ideas on the matter, as does that recalcitrant sheriff in Arizona.
As far as no third party run if they’re “nice to me,” substitute “treat me fairly” and what’s the problem?
So, unless I’m missing something, your objection is just aesthetic, or more precisely class bigotry against someone who talks like an average Joe or Josephine would, off the cuff.
Which is Trump’s strength, not his weakness, even if it’s an act. And you play right into it. Just like NR, TWS, and now Fox with that idiotic tweet or whatever about Putin.
You can only insult and denigrate people for so long before they react, and when they do, they will probably over-react. But telling them they are crazy is not the way to get them to calm down–whether it’s your spouse, your kid, or 10 million people on the other end of a broadcast. You should acknowledge they have a legitimate beef and SINCERELY try to engage in conversation so each can better understand the other and see where there can be common ground. Which is what NR, TWS and Fox are NOT doing.
Meanwhile, Jeb! continues to assault Rubio in NH, thinking if it’s just him against Trump, he wins.
He’s wrong, and the fact that he thinks that way is why he’s wrong.
Right now, I am for Cruz. In a pinch I could consider Rubio based on a satisfactory explanation of why he went squish on immigration and campus due process and I believed it wouldn’t happen again. I don’t care for Trump, never have for 30+ years, but I would vote for him over Jeb! in a heartbeat, maybe over Christie (who also has a lot of explaining to do), maybe over Kasich, definitely over Carson, and over either Hillary! or Sanders if push comes to shove. Just so you know where I am coming from.
And for NR, TWS, and Fox and Boehner and McConnell and the Chamber and all the consultants and K-Street shiny suit guys–whose fault is it that it came to this sorry pass? Not Donald Trump and certainly not his supporters.
I’m curious. How do you obtain your birth certificate if you don’t have a copy and the hospital you were born in closed down years ago?
All birth certificates are filed with the state equivalent of the Registrar of Vital Statistics. You contact them. Also, some counties maintain an equivalent office, so if you were born in “x” county, they can furnish it. It varies from state to state, the exact office you go to, but usually you can find out by contacting the state Secretary of State.
Events move faster nowadays. 1858-59 may be more appropriate.
Subotai Bahadur,
Thanks. Good to know.
” The GOP has abandoned its demographic base in favor of its moneyed supporters, but without voters it will wind up with neither people nor money in another cycle or two.”
I think we might be seeing the 1858 Whigs in action. Trump is crude and I cringe sometimes when he talks in his blustering style but he is on to something.
From Wiki:
In particular, the Whigs supported the supremacy of Congress over the Presidency and favored a program of modernization, banking and economic protectionism to stimulate manufacturing. It appealed to entrepreneurs and planters, but had little appeal to farmers or unskilled workers.
Sound familiar ?
Mike K,
What’s the difference between a planter and farmer so that their interests diverged? I understand then as now modernization reduces the demand for labor, but why would “economic protectionism to stimulate manufacturing” hold little appeal to unskilled workers?
A “planter” would suggest to me that this was a person who was a sort of 1840 corporate farmer, only with slaves instead of employees.
Farmers were small businessmen in those days.
Economic protectionism made some sense in an era when transportation was costly and native industries were just getting started,
Today, I think it implies more about currency manipulation, which seems to be the case with China. Tariffs make things more expensive but currency manipulation needs other measures.
Reagan went along with domestic content legislation and Japan built factories in southern states.
Unskilled workers are more at risk from immigration, especially low wage migrants who are often illiterate. I sent years reviewing workers comp claims. Illegals filed a lot of work comp claims in California and I read the claims. Most were illiterate in Spanish, let alone English. Many claimed a “second grade “education in Mexico. Immigrants, even illegals, 50 years ago were literate.
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I find it weird that nobody’s early 1980s Columbia ID is on the Internet. Google Image search comes up dry. You’d think that somebody would have kept one and scanned it but nothing seems to be out there.
“Nobody seems to remember him at Columbia.”
http://www.factcheck.org/2010/02/obama-at-columbia-university/
excerpt:
Last year, the New York Times wrote about Phil Boerner, who roomed with the future president during his first year at Columbia. The article included excerpts from the Columbia student directory, showing Obama living during his junior year at 142 West 109th Street near Columbia’s campus in New York City, and during his senior year at 339 East 94th Street. Boerner recalled that Obama sometimes wrapped himself in a sleeping bag to keep warm in the chilly apartment they shared, and that some nights he would cook chicken curry for dinner.
In an article published in Columbia College Today, Boerner also wrote:
Boerner: “I remember often eating breakfast with Barack at Tom’s Restaurant on Broadway. Occasionally we went to The West End for beers. We enjoyed exploring museums such as the Guggenheim, the Met and the American Museum of Natural History, and browsing in bookstores such as the Strand and the Barnes & Noble opposite Columbia. We both liked taking long walks down Broadway on a Sunday afternoon, and listening to the silence of Central Park after a big snow. I also remember jogging the loop around Central Park with Barack.”
One minute google search, guys. One minute.
I’d read the Boerner account.
When we were teens, skipping high school was routine. We discovered a great, safe place to hang out during the day was the student union building at our local State University. No cops to dodge, lots of cute chicks and an open air drug market. There was however, one peril.
You had to pass the Black Student Union offices. The big, red, black and green flag in that hall meant you had to wipe the smile off your face and step lively as you passed the door. Everyone knew that the scowling, older men in sunglasses weren’t students anymore than we were.
I mention all this to suggest that perhaps our man of mystery was enrolled in some type of non-credit or non-classroom course at the University. His attorney general attended there some years earlier and was heavily involved in extra-curricular activities. The facility is notorious for turning out rats of every stripe.
That’s it? One bloke claims to remember him?
“That’s it? One bloke claims to remember him?”
That’s perfectly enough to prove that “Nobody seems to remember him at Columbia.” is perfectly wrong.
Besides, that bloke is the one who according to records was the roommate, so he’s not some random imposter.
It’s fine tos ay that Obama doesn’t seem to have made an outstanding impression at Columbia University, but it’s perfectly wrong to claim that nobody from there has remembered or seems to remember him.
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“perhaps our man of mystery was enrolled in some type of non-credit or non-classroom course at the University”
Why make up uneducated guesses?
As is written on the factcheck page I linked to,
“Columbia University proudly claims Obama as a 1983 graduate.”
A Bachelor of Arts GRADUATE (in political science), not just someone who took a single course or such. He must have taken and passed about two dozen courses there.
Seriously, you could look this up even on Wikipedia. To publicly guess nonsense when the info on the real world is so easily accessible is pretty close to conspiracy theorising.
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Do you guys know what the left wing says about such behaviour of questioning Obama’s abckground, or similar-sounding claims that Obama was never truly vetted (“man of mystery” ringing a bell?) et cetera?
They say/write that this is driven by an urge to reject the legitimacy of his presidency, and that this in turn is driven by racist rejection of the idea that a black guy could possibly be at the top of the ladder when blacks do belong to the bottom of it, below all whites.
The right wing sure reacted allergic to Obama, despite him being more right wing than Nixon and making policies of the Eisenhower era look outright communist by comparison.
related:
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/obama-is-a-republican/
>> and that this in turn is driven by racist rejection of the idea that a black guy could possibly be at the top of the ladder…
When your desired direction of attack doesn’t match reality, make one up! Then proceed, unfazed, as if it were true. Keep this up and you might qualify as Hillary’s running mate.
>> The right wing sure reacted allergic to Obama, despite him being more right wing than Nixon and making policies of the Eisenhower era look outright communist by comparison.
On further examination, I recommend you take your meds and get some sleep. That is such a bizarre interpretation of the world it indicates dementia.
despite him being more right wing than Nixon and making policies of the Eisenhower era look outright communist by comparison.
Oh Oh. Troll alert !
Uhh, ohh, I didn’t expect to win so quickly by technical K.O. of u guys switching to ad hominem.
Being seen where he “roomed” while at Columbia is not the same thing as being seen in class, interacting with students and faculty, which NOBODY remember him EVER doing.
… and that technique is known as “moving the goalpost”.
He graduated. What’s the point of whether someone recalls seeing him during a lecture or not. It would be even more impressive to have graduated without hearing lectures than after doing so.
Besides, political science – you cannot graduate in this at college without attending. It’s a lot about talking.
Will:
“The facility is notorious for turning out rats of every stripe.”
Columbia is a diverse school. Before issuing a blanket condemnation of Columbia alumni, consider that these folks are Columbians, too:
http://milvets.columbia.edu/
Columbia has by far the largest population of student-veterans in the Ivy League, most of whom are former-enlisted undergraduates.
“They say/write that this is driven by an urge to reject the legitimacy of his presidency, and that this in turn is driven by racist rejection of the idea that a black guy could possibly be at the top of the ladder when blacks do belong to the bottom of it, below all whites.”
Because no one who ever ran for president except Obama has had their past scrutinized? Tell that to Bush who had his military record falsified on national TV in one election and a long forgotten DUI dredged up in another.
Or tell it to Romney who actually had to face accusations about his great-grandparents. I wonder if you know they say on the right wing that people who write that kind of stuff are interested in genetically cleansing the populace?
The real problem with the left wing (and Obama) is they’ve been so out on a limb for so long that when they were finally drawn back into the fold with Obama’s presidency they were totally unprepared for the realities of American politics.
S O:
despite him being more right wing than Nixon and making policies of the Eisenhower era look outright communist by comparison.
Mike K:
Oh Oh. Troll alert !
S O:
Uhh, ohh, I didn’t expect to win so quickly by technical K.O. of u guys switching to ad hominem.
Let’s remove the ad hominem – attack on the person- from Mike K’s comment: S O made an absurd comparison of Obama to Nixon or Eisenhower.
I actually provided an article that laid out the case for it at great length…
It looks to me as if Republican strategists decided on the vilification of Obama and H.R.Clinton becuase both were actually so far right wing that without some irrational aversion component they would be effective at attracting many Republican moderates.
Obama actually continued or introduced Republican policies and policy proposals while badly disappointing the left wing of the democratic party, the progressives. Several top officials in teh Obama administration were actualyl Republicans, including Gates. He was also pretty business-friendly, particularly to Wall Street. The only industry leaders who have good reason to oppose him for his actual policies are coal and oil/gas sector IIRC adn that’s about structural change (and the oil sector still made record profits under Obama’s administration!).
BTW, Nixon’s health reform plan (scrapped by his resignation) was much less “Republican” than is the ACA, which followed Heritage’s proposal and Romneycare.
http://khn.org/news/nixon-proposal/
But the article has many more points indicating that Obama is actually not much of a leftist.
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/obama-is-a-republican/
The racial kayfabe employed every time a legitimate criticism appears is beyond overplayed. Many of the questions would never have been raised had he made even a half-assed attempt at embracing the people he swore to defend. He didn’t, he chose another path.
Questioning a part of his CV without any evidence that it’s untrue is not a legitimate concern, particularly not in light of nonpartisan factcheck reports being just a minute of googling away.
And guess how much progressives felt “embraced” by GWB. That’s partisan aversion/hostility, not a hard criterion for judging a leader.
This election is themes elemental. We’ve been had my the faux-opposition party. So what do you want? It’s not a choice that requires anyone to treat their vote as precious as a prima donna’s crotch.
If you can tell good from bad, and right from wrong ”” without quibbling, it’s time to step-up and fight, and attack bluntly and brutally, and show no quarter. We’re in a fight to the death of liberty ”” for the future of this Republic, if we can hold it together. [Quibblers, leave now!] It’s going to be ugly brawl. [If you can’t take punch, step aside.]
In a brawl, I want someone like Trump at my back, as I help him shoot the enemy on anywhere, even on “5th Avenue,” indeed especially there. If you don’t like that imagery, I don’t care. I don’t want to hear your whinning preferences, you neat and cleaver distinctions. If this were a la-dee-da “5th Avenue” arranged debate ”” I might like Cruz, but his “nose” is not made to take it. If you have any concern of Ms. Megyn’s feelings, or any other media “whore” ”” male or female, you’re in the wrong saloon, Buddy. Me. I’m with that tough fearless SOB who smacked her, and “frankly doesn’t give damn.” If that shocks you, take a good look in the mirror, because you’re my enemy, because you’re too “nice” to trust to have my back. “Go over to the “Hairball,” and have a watered shot, and quibble with that Blondie, you know that Chris girl.
If you’re gagging on this comment, keep saying “President Trump, President Trump, President Trump . . . ” If that makes you puke, puke and eat it, “Dog.,” This is not a time for sweet niceties, gentlemen and gentlewomen. It’s time to get your growl going.
This election’s theme is elemental. We’ve been had by the faux-opposition party . . .