Who are the Afghans evacuated ?

The Biden evacuation was botched. We all agree on that but what happened and why ? The Afghans who were interpreters and who worked with the US military were given, or were supposed to be given, special visas. These were called “Special Immigrant Visas” and were for Afghans who worked with the US. We are now reading that The majority of these people were not evacuated.

WASHINGTON—The U.S. estimates it left behind the majority of Afghan interpreters and others who applied for visas to flee Afghanistan, a senior State Department official said on Wednesday, despite frantic efforts to evacuate those at risk of Taliban retribution.

In the early days of the evacuation effort, thousands of Afghans crowded Kabul’s airport seeking a way to flee the country. Some made it through without paperwork, while American citizens and visa applicants were unable to enter and board flights out.

The U.S. still doesn’t have reliable data on who was evacuated, nor for what type of visas they may qualify, the official said, but initial assessments suggested most visa applicants didn’t make it through the crush at the airport.

The Biden administration now boasts that 120,000 Afghans were evacuated. Who are they?

An agency in Virginia has requested interpreters in Dari and Pashto for refugees who do not speak English. If they do not speak English, how could they have been interpreters ?

One Wisconsin Congressman reported that None of the 2,000 refugees in a base in Wisconsin has an SIV visa. Who are they ?

He said that he was shocked when he learned none of the refugees who were stationed in the state had entered the country on a Special Immigration Visa [SIV].

The SIV requires a thorough vetting process that can take as long as two years.

‘They were all there on parole,’ Tiffany said. ‘The parole authority is granted to the secretary of the Department of Homeland Security. He can just wave people in,’ he explained, charging the administration with ‘circumventing the SIV process.’

The congressman said that what concerned him most was the fact that the refugees were allowed to come and go from the base as they pleased.

The Emergency Security Supplemental Appropriations Act, 2021, which was enacted on July 30, 2021, authorized 8,000 additional SIVs for Afghan applicants. This was in addition to the 34,500 visas allocated to Afghans since December 2014.

The act allows Afghan nationals who meet certain criteria to apply for a visa, providing were employed in Afghanistan by or on behalf of the U.S. government, or by the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF), or a successor mission.

That adds up to 42,500 visas. Who are the other 80,000 ?

This, of course, does not include American citizens of whom hundreds were left behind as hostages.

33 thoughts on “Who are the Afghans evacuated ?”

  1. It’s been widely reported in non-US media that the vast majority of the evacuees were taken out by other countries. The US government kept being very cagy and saying how many people had flown out of the airport and implying that we were the only ones taking people out. So the UK, Germans, etc., took tens of thousands of people, both their own citizens and Afghans.

  2. The Afghans are essentially colonists of the Deep State against America.

    They don’t care who they are, as any problems resulting from their presence will be blamed upon “white supremacists” and “institutional racism.”

    In any case, these “problems”- very likely include terrorist attacks but also rape, murder, and crime of all sorts- will provide a handy excuse for gun control and other oppression aimed at the Deep State’s enemies- that is, Americans.

    Plus, once they federalize elections, complete with perpetual vote by mail, ballot harvesting, etc, these foreigners will swing the swing states, whether they actually vote or not, or actually know what elections are. Note also that if you dump enough of them in low population red-states, you can completely change the demographics of the state. Hence, no more GOP senators from those places, ever. I was personally told of a “huge” refugee camp for Syrians years ago, in South Dakota, for example.

    Pardon me if I’m only stating the obvious, but I can also add that way back when I was regularly reading commentary on leftist sites, the plan to “fundamentally transform” the US by swamping the population with hostile foreigners was quite openly discussed. I even recall reading one of these leftists grovelling to the “people of color” in the comments, promising to be a good little boy for his new future masters.

    Note also that the Gee Ohhh Peeee is nowhere to be seen in all this, no doubt busy plotting the next attempt to repeal the inheritance tax. The only commentary on recent events I’ve seen from Mitch McConnell has been to announce that Biden won’t be impeached for his treason and incompetence.

    In other words, it’s all business as usual for the Deep State.

  3. “In other words, it’s all business as usual for the Deep State.”

    Yup. Since they got rid of Trump its back to business as usual. I thought that was obvious. Its a bit of a stretch to blame the poor Afghans for being part of their machinations, as they are happy to use anything to maintain their power and influence.

  4. I even recall reading one of these leftists grovelling to the “people of color” in the comments, promising to be a good little boy for his new future masters.

    One irony here is that Afghans are as white as Irishmen. Pakistanis are darker skinned, possibly because many resettled from the south of the Indian subcontinent after the British withdrew,.

  5. “That adds up to 42,500 visas. Who are the other 80,000 ?”

    How about close to 5 Infantry Divisions worth of Jihadi‘s?

    Subotai Bahadur

  6. Over at the Conservative Treehouse, they make a good point: Where are all the videos of the refugees here in the US? Where are the videos of family members greeting their returned American-citizen repatriates?

    Something is off, here–Anyone else remember the Vietnam-era deal, with the C-5s full of orphans? The Cuban boatlift?

    Where’d all these “saved” people go? Why aren’t we seeing them on TV? Is there something they’re hiding about all of this?

  7. Kirk: “Where are the videos of family members greeting their returned American-citizen repatriates?”

    Memory-holed. Even what would normally be seen as good stuff, like families reunited. If they don’t report it, then the tree fell in the forest without a sound. And the fascist conglomerate of Institutional Democrats, Big Media, & Big Social Media are cooperating to push the Afghanistan story into the shredder as fast as they can.

  8. One irony here is that Afghans are as white as Irishmen. Pakistanis are darker skinned, possibly because many resettled from the south of the Indian subcontinent after the British withdrew.

    Yes, but for the purposes of the left “people of color” means anyone they think likely to be anti-American, and thus above reproach. Similarly, “white supremacist” means anyone they believe to be pro-American.

  9. They don’t even need to be “pro-American”, they just need to be American.

    What’s that line about just assuming that any organization that’s failing can be assumed to be run by a cabal of its worst enemies? That’s what we’ve got going on with our “elites”; internally-generated self-hating enemies of the nation. That’s who has been running the country since about Wilson, who never forgave America for winning the Civil War.

    Who the hell needs barbarians at the gates? We’ve got the Uniparty and their allies undermining everything from within, completely unable to process that they’re pulling the whole place down around their own ears. They think they’re going to survive, and that the successor state and/or the incoming invaders are going to somehow embrace them as “not the white bastard Americans”. Reality? I think anyone coming into power is going to treat them the same way the Bolsheviks dealt with the Mensheviks: Roughly, with whips, chains, and the usual bullet in the back of the neck. Traitor’s wages, in other words.

  10. yesterday, one of the so called beetles, the ladbroke cell of islamic state, pled guilty, after being extradited from kurdish territory

  11. > The Biden administration now boasts that 120,000 Afghans were evacuated.

    My question isn’t who, but HOW?

    Not from Kabul Airport, at least not from what I can find about number of flights since the Bug Out.

  12. > Something is off, here–Anyone else remember the Vietnam-era deal, with the C-5s full of orphans? The Cuban boatlift?

    Where’d all these “saved” people go? Why aren’t we seeing them on TV? Is there something they’re hiding about all of this?

    In the cast of the Vietnamese, they mostly were staged at Blytheville AFB in Arkansas until various states agreed to take them. At least until the appropriation ran out and wasn’t renewed, at which point they turned them out and said “Have fun y’all, bye.” Pick up a printed phone book and you’ll see page after page of identifiably Vietnamese names.

    Some of them left the state to join family that had been resettled somewhere else. Some of them went back to Vietnam and took their chances, usually because the rest of their family didn’t make it out. The remainder *wanted* to be here, they learned English, worked hard, and sent their kids to school. I’ve known many of them over the years. There are no Little Saigons in Arkansas. The country they were from no longer existed, so they put all their efforts into becoming Americans.

    How many are there? It’s hard to tell. Common enough not to be notable, anyway. When the Mexican wave hit Arkansas in the early oughts the illegals were confused by the brown-skinned people who couldn’t speak Spanish.

  13. my family came through the freedom tower, we waited on an exit visa for 8 years, so did my grandfather, my father waited 11 years the last two through third countries,

  14. my family came through the freedom tower, we waited on an exit visa for 8 years, so did my grandfather, my father waited 11 years the last two through third countries,

    These are exactly the sort of people the Deep State wants to keep out- that is, law abiding people who they fear may assimilate well into the existing American culture.

    You can’t “fundamentally transform” a country if the foreigners you admit get along well with the existing inhabitants and share similar values.

    Hence, the ruthless and relentless efforts to import people who have had nothing to do with anything resembling American culture and the extra special effort to import people who are likely to actively hate it. I’m thinking of the (likely) Jihadi airlifts from Afghanistan just now and the swarms of Somalis flown into the country over the years.

    Meanwhile, people who are willing to wait are left twisting in the wind, ignored. If you wait long enough you might get in, well behind the swarms of the lawless who simply walk across the open border.

    A functioning, competent opposition party would object to this, I think.

    If only we had one…

  15. Xennady: “A functioning, competent opposition party would object to this, I think.”

    A functioning, competent majority party in 2017-18 would have supported their President who was trying to control the border, I think. Ever wonder why the Republicrats (spit!) did not?

  16. I think anyone coming into power is going to treat them the same way the Bolsheviks dealt with the Mensheviks…

    I’ve had the thought that the next successful American opposition leader will be roughly analogous to the Ayatollah Khomeini. The Deep State, the establishment, whatever you want to call it, can’t spend generations working to demean and exclude men from the power-structure of society without eventually making men conclude that that they- or we, I should say- have no stake in its continuance.

    The consequences have manifested in a variety of ways, such as when the establishment attempted to inflame sentiments such that there should have been a groundswell of opinion demanding intervention in Syria, years ago. Instead, they got a giant pile of indifference. Shrug.

    But what happens when a hypothetical opposition ceases to demean men and stops pretending we are evil garbage?

  17. Ever wonder why the Republicrats (spit!) did not?

    I used to, but I think I’ve figured it out- they’re nothing more than a sham and a lie, intended to fool the public into thinking that there was an opposition party to what we now call the Deep State.

    For what it’s worth, my epiphany was circa 2006, when I discerned that George Bush was, essentially, a globalist who had no particular interest in the US or in the fate of its citizens.

    The rest of his party- the Gee Ohhh Peeeeeee- is no better. I regret if I haven’t made my thorough and visceral contempt for the Republican party establishment clear enough, but I made a deliberate effort to stop repeating that in every single comment, despite my intense desire to do so.

  18. We now know who some afghans are. They are female children being trafficked by older men.

    One internal document seen by The Associated Press says the State Department has sought “urgent guidance” from other agencies after purported child brides were brought to Fort McCoy in Wisconsin. Another document, described to the AP by officials familiar with it, says Afghan girls at a transit site in Abu Dhabi have alleged they have been raped by older men they were forced to marry in order to escape Afghanistan.

    Most of the people in that photo of the 800 evacuees on the first C 17 were men.

  19. It seems clear that to the State Department and Biden and. . . well the deep state. . . identity politics (I’m not arguing against what they really want as this thread indicates but what their sloppy, evasive pontifications when asked are) Afghans are Afghans. The ones who are proud their sisters went to school, who risked their lives in battles with the Taliban trying to lead to a government closer to a democracy and who have to some degree what we might call “western” values that led them to take dangerous positions with the American forces are the same as child raping, women oppressing, illiterate, jihadists. One group of course would not just assimilate but appreciate the culture into which they were dropped, the others would remain outside that culture, parasitic, condescending even, and immensely destructive. This thread assumes that the people who guaranteed chaos in this project (for how long had those who had served with the one group been arguing for speed and competency in the vetting – seeing the possibility that people who had sometimes saved their lives wouldn’t get out?) knew and exploited these differences. But they seem to think their audience sees Afghans as one large block of people and this allows them to adopt insane righteous poses when criticized.

  20. The decent Afghans are still in Afghanistan. The ones we got out are the ones who pushed aside the women and children, in order to get to the head of the lifeboat line. The fact that there are rather more men than women and children would be the “tell”.

    This is one “winnowing process” wherein we ought to take a long, hard look at the people we winnowed, and then probably dump most of them at sea. I don’t see a future of positive outcomes, with all this.

  21. It is again curious, that there aren’t any news stories out there, save for maybe at the micro-local level — about returning American civilians, and military units. No happy reunions of families at the airport, no tales of breathless escapes from Kabul in the major news outlets … it’s as if there is a Cone of Silence over it all, save in some of the conservative blogs. The Biden administration and the Establishment News Media want all of this to go away, and so have instituted a ban on any sorties of this sort. Now I do understand that according to bloggers like Bayou Renaissance Man that there are still active escape networks and OPSEC rules, lest the game be given away. But still – the Cone of Silence is curious and rather disturbing.
    https://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2021/09/afghanistan-update-on-those-boots-on.html

  22. the brigade was landed in the most unpropicious location, kind of like if easy company had been dropped in berchtesgarden, not the most optimum location or the adler schloss in where eagles dare

  23. The decent Afghans are still in Afghanistan. The ones we got out are the ones who pushed aside the women and children, in order to get to the head of the lifeboat line. The fact that there are rather more men than women and children would be the “tell”.

    I tend to agree. There is more starting to come out about the “child brides.”

    CBS News has learned that “several” Afghan women and girls who were evacuated to facilities in the United Arab Emirates have told officials that their families forced them into marriage outside of the Kabul airport so that they could be eligible for evacuation.

    A senior State Department official said authorities are taking the claims seriously and investigating. Human trafficking is a federal crime and also illegal in every state. It is not clear how the U.S. would handle the case of an Afghan evacuee found guilty of child trafficking.

    Since the bases housing refugees are open, I expect the worst traffickers to vanish.

  24. Since the bases housing refugees are open, I expect the worst traffickers to vanish.

    Of course they will. More smartitude from our self-described best and brightest, who made this possible.

    It is not clear how the U.S. would handle the case of an Afghan evacuee found guilty of child trafficking.

    Oh. So foreigners who are flown into the country and immediately break US law- what to do, what to do…

    I know! I know! Send them back!!

    Presumably they didn’t break the law of the foreign country they came from that also btw I don’t care about. Or send them somewhere else. Or- least favorite option- imprison them here.

    But no. Our idiot elite has no idea what to do, at all. Thus, we’ll probably end up paying welfare benefits forever to the women and the children they forced to have by their child traffickers. Likely these foreigners imported into the country will also commit myriad crimes against actual American citizens, not that regime is concerned about those people.

    Idiocy and incompetence, at every level, always.

  25. Epstein’s ghost may get the last reptilian, evil smile: both the Afghan airlift and the southern border have facilitated child trafficking and other forms of forced dependency on quite evil people. I’m not sure how much we’ve heard is exaggeration but some of it clearly is not.

  26. Lawlessness breeds more lawlessness. If you buy the mythology, the early Mafiosi eschewed supposedly dirty things like drugs in preference to cleaner crime like booze, extortion, gambling and prostitution. If it even existed, they should have saved their sanctimonious hypocrisy. They were happy enough to act as contractors for the the ones willing to dirty their hands until they eventually cut out the middlemen.

    If you have a border anyone can cross at anytime, carrying anything, for any reason, they will. Drugs, explosives, six year olds; only someone as stupid and corrupt as Biden Pelosi wouldn’t see the connection.

    As others have commented, you can be sure the ones that were willing to climb over as many bodies as it took to get on a plane are the last ones we would want to be here.

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